Aston Villa v Burnley Post Match Thread

[Smithy]

On the penalty, it WAS soft, but the context is everything. If they’re going for a 50/50 I don’t think it’s given. I think the fact that he nicked it off the toe of Ramsey Jnr makes the contact more significant.  On the replay the first thing Ramsey Jnr does is look back at the ref because he knows he was robbed and made contact.  The ref only played on to see if we’d score from the advantage, and when McGinn turns away from goal he blows.

I also think that if he DOESN’T give it, he’s not sent to review it by VAR. so we’re lucky he gave it. There was contact, so it was never being overturned by VAR, but I’m not sure the contact was enough that VAR would have intervened had he not given it. Which is how it should be. It’s there for obvious errors, not to correct the refs view of whether contact was “sufficient” for penalty, or not.

[paul_e]

VAR has helped us with our high line, in real time we would have conceded many more from those that have been marginal decisions.

I'm not sure, almost every offside we've won has come with a late flag before being checked, I can only think of a couple since Emery came in that weren't flagged and then got given on VAR.

[jon collett]

I watched it from the North Stand. To me it looked a clear penalty. Duran was through and impeded.

However Attwell didn’t seem to want to give it (I am still suspicious about his cov affiliations) and only seemed to be persuaded by fact Duran seemed to be seriously injured and was staying down.

[LeeB]

Susan, ha!

[VillaTim]

Who's Susan

[PeterWithesShin]

To me it seems Atwell lets play develop to see if there's an advantage as well as give himself a few extra seconds to make a decision. I'd rather that than they make an immediate decision, be it right or wrong or for or against us.

[jon collett]

Attwell stared at Duran for ages before giving it,

[VillaTim]

I think the ref just took his time with the decision. Then Luiz took his time with the run up and the ball took its time deciding if it was going to go in or not

[jon collett]

Well the main thing is the result but that was my interpretation from directly above and behind.

For a number of reasons I will now be nervous the next time Attwell refs the Villa!

[Risso]

Attwell stared at Duran for ages before giving it,

Good looking lad to be fair.

[brontebilly]

It's a pen. You don't have to clatter a player for it to be a foul. Their player was dumb as fuck to do that shirt pull while on a yellow. The only wrong decision was the handball, which was outside the box. I assume it would have been a yellow and a good free kick chance for them. Although a red appearing wouldn't shock me these days.

The contact was minimal, Duran earns the penalty. It has happened against us many times. I am grateful but it doesn’t make it right.

Having seen it again, it doesn't look anything like a penalty to me. The defender mildly touches Duran's foot, which isn't a foul, but Jhon goes down and flips over and over like he's been shot. The contact looked similar to me to the Luiz one against Arsenal which wasn't given against us. Still, we've had enough shit decisions, like Ollie being shoved over, so I'll take anything marginal in our favour.

Dean Smith was the co-commentator on R5 Live.

He said it was never a penalty.

Looked a blatant dive let's be honest. Badly needed three points so we will take it. Would have been a disaster dropping two points yesterday in light of the collapse at Old Trafford.

[Brazilian Villain]

I think the ref just took his time with the decision. Then Luiz took his time with the run up and the ball took its time deciding if it was going to go in or not

And then the ref took his time blowing the final whistle.

[Villa Lew]

Carlos and Lenglet partnership is a concern, though the penalty was not a stonewaller, it was a thoroughly deserved win, the biggest plus for me is Leon, at last he is now fulfilling his potential.

A stat I read that surprised me was this was our first double over Burnley in the league since 1925-26 season.

[Villan For Life]

Carlos and Lenglet partnership is a concern, though the penalty was not a stonewaller, it was a thoroughly deserved win, the biggest plus for me is Leon, at last he is now fulfilling his potential.

A stat I read that surprised me was this was our first double over Burnley in the league since 1925-26 season.

That’s a pretty meaningless stat though isn’t it? How many of those 98 seasons were we actually in the same division?

[dave.woodhall]

Carlos and Lenglet partnership is a concern, though the penalty was not a stonewaller, it was a thoroughly deserved win, the biggest plus for me is Leon, at last he is now fulfilling his potential.

A stat I read that surprised me was this was our first double over Burnley in the league since 1925-26 season.

That’s a pretty meaningless stat though isn’t it? How many of those 98 seasons were we actually in the same division?

Thirty-odd from a quick adding up, and it's 91, not 98.