Aston Villa v Burnley Post Match Thread

[Drummond]

Wes’s firm Fortress definitely had hedge funds. Wasn’t just private equity.

Agreed, he was a partner at BlackRock before he co-founded Fortress which was named "Hedge Fund Manager of the Year" in 2014 by Institutional Investor. In this instance, I'd say the term 'hedge fund billionaire' is close enough for the purposes of a quip in a post-match thread.

yes but not accurate.

I think it is, you don't. Take it up with Institutional Investor.

I don’t need to.
I know.

Oh well, I really was hoping the phrase "Hedge Fund Manager of the Year" would have been a slight clue.

This really has to be the daftest argument I've seen here for a while, and I should know, I'm normally involved in them!

p.s. Duran was kicked, it's a penalty. Whether it was soft or not he was fouled, in the penalty area.

If that pen was against us i'd be furious . As it was for us it's a stonewall pen and i hope Duran recovers soon from his underfoot injury which looked serious

And yet you'd know, for the reasons given, that it was, indeed, a penalty

And thank God we have a player who's learned how to be fouled.

[Risso]

Not all contact in the box is a penalty.

[Ads]

I thought it was funny when the ref booked Emi for time wasting. He blew as the ball was kicked, so then had to get the ball back to him which took another minute.

That made me laugh too. He's the most Argentinian footballer there is. And I love him.

[Monty]

I thought it was funny when the ref booked Emi for time wasting. He blew as the ball was kicked, so then had to get the ball back to him which took another minute.

That made me laugh too. He's the most Argentinian footballer there is. And I love him.

He's the king. He looked so hurt as well! What a guy.

[LeeB]

It was never a penalty for me, but then thinking back last night to some of the games under Dyche when they shit housed their way to undeserved points against us I'm glad it was them that copped for it.

[Villan82]

We created chance after chance. We did more than enough to win the game.

[Ian.]

It wasn’t a penalty, I wasn’t too sure yesterday but seeing it today it’s very soft. However we had three very bad calls in one match against Sheffield and a very bad one up at Wolves.

[WarszaVillan]

At 2-1 we were all over them and missed three or four clear chances. We weren't at our best but should still have won comfortably. I don't get the penalty argument, he kicked his foot in the box and Duran was savvy enough to go down. Clear penalty.

[Bad English]

I can definitely see three more points on the board so penalty or not FTF!

[Axl Rose]

I can definitely see three more points on the board so penalty or not FTF!

A penalty kick is a method of restarting play in association football, in which a player is allowed to take a single shot at the goal while it is defended only by the opposing team's goalkeeper. It is awarded when an offence punishable by a direct free kick is committed by a player in their own penalty area.

Source: Google

😂

[thick_mike]

Couldn't agree more CL!
Refs and VAR making up their own interpretations of clear and simple rules have muddied the waters incredibly.
Instead of a two handed push and shirt pulling on Ollie Watkins being deemed no foul we have a grab of a bit of a shirt today being deemed a foul and a yellow card. How the f**k does that happen? The PL Refs' Union only have themselves to blame for the continual shit they get when they dispense such ridiculous inconsistencies!

There was enough on here bemoaning a player not being sent off for this exact foul and reason with the Bournemouth match. However your description of" a bit of a shirt" is probably stretched more then Luiz's jersey did with the grab. It was a deliberate act to stop Luiz from going forward on the attack with no attempt to play a ball and is more certain of yellow cards then other actions these days.

I do want to know why Atwell decided the first foul on JJ wasn't a freekick though but was a booking. After all any advantage was over almost straight away (3 seconds after the incident is when Moreno lost the ball) and we got called back for a "foul" on the keeper 20 seconds after Sheffield United had advantage twice. In the end we got the goal from that period of play directly after but we still had a slight scare with Konsa and Odebert.

I know all that S....I was just making the point of inconsistency and stretching it, as you so eloquently put it.
My overall point, made elsewhere too, is that the inconsistencies of refs don't help anyone, least of all themselves, when it comes to criticism of their decision making/VAR. They are there to apply the laws, no one else is, but they do so in such a varied and subjective way that the law itself is lost amongst all the shit they've chosen to add to it. It's why the Villa/Arse ref's decision to disallow the Haevartz (??) goal was so good.....he applied the law exactly as he should have and didn't include emotion/sympathy/Arteta factor as so many do!
The Bournemouth player's shirt pull was clear....yellow...oh, it's a 2nd yellow, that's a red.....but no, because the player has already been booked the ref invokes the the sympathy card and lets him off. Makes no sense whatsoever!
It should all make sense but doesn't because refs are making their own stuff up as they go along!

My son summed it up, “Being a ref is the most vibes job going”

[LeeB]

That's an excellent observation.

[Monty]

Thought it was a penalty tbh, though a soft one. If it's on halfway it's a foul, so I'm the box it's a penalty. Makes up somewhat for the ludicrously non-awarded foul on Watkins v. Sheffield United.

Kompany has a point about the Carlos handball though! I thought that was a free-kick and a yellow, was startled to see Emi taking a calm goalkick (I had the sound off).

[Goldenballs]

It was handball, free kick and a yellow. But the ref didn't see it, so var could only check to see if the handball was in the box, or outside. Cos it was outside, they couldn't do anything?

[olaftab]

No no. Both calls were correct. Why can't we, the football fans, give officials credit for getting it right now and then? Aaron caught Jhon in full flight. It wasn't just a little tap as some have said it unbalanced him. Diego handball, it bounced off his thigh and onto his hand in a natural position, he wasnt looking at the ball. However he did fuck up that play big time.