Man Utd vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[brontebilly]

Playing McGinn that far forward was madness. He was hardly involved at all, and should have been dropped further back to support the midfield when it was clear we were being totally overrun.

Agreed, just required a swap with Bailey.

[Randy Gurner]

Had the whiff of inevitability about it from the 30th minute onwards.

Diego, as much as I love him, is a liability in a world of playing intricate passes out from the back. Way too casual.

We really missed Kamara

Hope the past two games aren’t the start of a descent back to more common altitudes

Amazon, their commentators / pundits, and Jeff Bezos, can get to f—-

[Risso]

Surprised that there has been little comment about just how poor McGinn was tonight, at both ends of the pitch. Thought he should have been replaced long before he was.

He's not a number 10, I don't care how many goals he scores for Scotland playing against San Marino or whoever. This season he seems to have played on the left and in the middle more than his actual best position on the right.

[RamboandBruno]

That was horrendously shit, if nothing else because they are utterly shit apart from the young winger. The Amazon coverage before during and after is appallingly biased, ManUTV.

But it was coming even in the first half, when we were sloppy at times. I thought Luiz was really poor as was Ramsey and Carlos in particular. I thought for once Unai was very slow making subs which is unusual, not sure what happened there.

But we are 3rd, we have the best team we’ve had in a generation, things are shot tonight but very very good otherwise.

[pauliewalnuts]

Sometimes, just sometimes things conspire. It's an awful place for us to go,  the number of unexpected and bizarre occurrences is somewhat beyond belief over the years. Players that never score, score, unexpected comebacks and ridiculous scorelines. But we are still OK, still a good side, let's not panic because I'm sure the Manager isn't 

I agree with this.

It's been a poor couple of matches, but we're THIRD in the league.

There's a bit of getting of a grip that would help tonight. It's not going to be a linear, uninterrupted march to glory, there will be ups and downs, great results and shit ones (a week and a bit ago we were beating Arsenal and Man City in 4 days).

From next week we have a chance to strengthen the squad, too, so let's see what happens. I am sure we'll be trying to do something, else we wouldn't have bothered hiring Monchi.

[kippaxvilla2]

My overriding feeling right now is one of complete and utter sickness.  And once again it has been caused by us and against them cnuts.

[Keeno]

This is worrying. This has happened to us many times before but I thought we were different this season but it seems not.

We are, these are the first points we've dropped having taken the lead all season, it was always going to happen (just like the 100% home record going). It feels shit togiht because we;ve been here so many times with these pricks but we've reached the halfway point 3points off the top of the table, every single person on here would've called you a fantasist if you've suggested that in July, we just need to keep our heads (both the team/club and the fans).

Careful Paul you're sounding a bit sensible there

[Aldridge Villa]

Over coached at times. Nothing wrong with row Z when the situation calls for it.

[Forge10]

Don’t know what’s more embarrassing

Their fans or Emery’s subs

Stupid post.  What's he supposed to do with the players we have out?

I thought that the narrative (see Spurs and Newcastle fans) is that we don't bleat and whine about players being missing because that is why we have a squad of players?

Our bench meant we had to play Dendonker and Emery brought on big Tim.  Who else is there?  Yes we have a squad, but no Buendia, Kamara, Tielemans.  Let's blame his subs when he has the chance to select from a fully fit squad eh?  Not sure what this has to do with Newcastle or Tottenham as I don't follow them.

But you understand that other football exists? And when we beat Spurs and their fans are all crying about their injured players, and we laughed at them.

And we think it's great when Newcastle get spanked by Bournemouth and their fans are all crying they that they don't even have enough players to fill a bench. And we laughed at them.

And we're down to the bare bones of the £15m  Belgian international who everyone loved two hours ago after his impudent back-heeled goal, and now we all have to all cry into our beers about how we can't possibly compete while we have losers like him in our team.

It just makes us sound like all those whiny bell-ends that we were laughing at four weeks ago.

Certainly puts perspective on it Dave especially for me 👍🏻

Legion, might be time for me to go on another hiatus. First game back in 2 years 🤔

[villadelph]

I can’t get my temperature down, still fucking fuming.

Haven’t lost since Nov 5th, but going down like this today has me furious.

[VillaTim]

What was that second half collapse ! Once Utd woke up it was men against boys. Absolutely turgid stuff. Was Luiz even on the pitch ? Carlos another basic error for the first goal . Dear oh dear so poor .

[Risso]

Sometimes, just sometimes things conspire. It's an awful place for us to go,  the number of unexpected and bizarre occurrences is somewhat beyond belief over the years. Players that never score, score, unexpected comebacks and ridiculous scorelines. But we are still OK, still a good side, let's not panic because I'm sure the Manager isn't 

I agree with this.

It's been a poor couple of matches, but we're THIRD in the league.

There's a bit of getting of a grip that would help tonight. It's not going to be a linear, uninterrupted march to glory, there will be ups and downs, great results and shit ones (a week and a bit ago we were beating Arsenal and Man City in 4 days).

From next week we have a chance to strengthen the squad, too, so let's see what happens. I am sure we'll be trying to do something, else we wouldn't have bothered hiring Monchi.

Tonight is extremely hard to take. There was no fight, no intelligence, no decent subs, nothing. Just shit football and a lack of anything approaching a decent effort second half. And it had to be against those twats, didn't it, who were getting played off the park by Bournemouth in their last home game.

[Dave]

Pau and Kamara play and i'm convinced we'd be top having won the last 2,

I agree with that.

Me too. But I remember a (sound and wise, as always) PWS post pointing out that all clubs have their "if only we'd beaten Forest and Wolves" matches that they can point to.

And all the clubs around us have their "if only we'd had player X for game Y then we'd have been fine" clauses.

We've been great, but it's hardly crazy to say that no injury to Maddison or Van De Valk and Spurs are ahead of us.

[VillaTim]

And Hoijland scored , so farkin predictable

[Risso]

We've been great, but it's hardly crazy to say that no injury to Maddison or Van De Valk and Spurs are ahead of us.

It's quite possible that they will be on Thursday anyway.