Man Utd vs Aston Villa post-match thread

[kippaxvilla2]

They probably will be tomorrow.

[Tony Daleys Shorts]

My overriding feeling right now is one of complete and utter sickness.  And once again it has been caused by us and against them cnuts.

Yep, sick to my fucking stomach. Losing a two goal lead against a good side is bad enough but against a really poor side is heartbreaking.

Should be used to it by now I suppose.

[pauliewalnuts]

Sometimes, just sometimes things conspire. It's an awful place for us to go,  the number of unexpected and bizarre occurrences is somewhat beyond belief over the years. Players that never score, score, unexpected comebacks and ridiculous scorelines. But we are still OK, still a good side, let's not panic because I'm sure the Manager isn't 

I agree with this.

It's been a poor couple of matches, but we're THIRD in the league.

There's a bit of getting of a grip that would help tonight. It's not going to be a linear, uninterrupted march to glory, there will be ups and downs, great results and shit ones (a week and a bit ago we were beating Arsenal and Man City in 4 days).

From next week we have a chance to strengthen the squad, too, so let's see what happens. I am sure we'll be trying to do something, else we wouldn't have bothered hiring Monchi.

Tonight is extremely hard to take. There was no fight, no intelligence, no decent subs, nothing. Just shit football and a lack of anything approaching a decent effort second half. And it had to be against those twats, didn't it, who were getting played off the park by Bournemouth in their last home game.

Yeah, I know.

It was a bad night and a bad result, in a fixture with a long history of making us very sad.

We're all sickened by it, no doubt about that, but it doesn't mean anything more than any match we lose this season, and given that's only our second league defeat since the end of September, that adds a bit more context.

[Le Lapin]

It was the inevitability of the whole scenario was just so gutting. You could see it after our second goal, we stood off them let them into it. I'm finding this one hard to stomach.

[aj2k77]

Usual dog shit against them and the inevitable comeback with someone who hasn't scored since biblical times getting the winner. Shit script that keeps on getting churned out against these.

[tomd2103]

I keep reading about our injuries etc. Manure we’re missing more players than us I think. Call it what it was, an absolute shit show second half.

It had started well before then and I thought we were fortunate to go in 2-0 up.  Unfortunately, we've seen that kind of away performance a few times this season and it has cost us.  We just don't look strong enough, can't hold the ball up in the final third, sloppy play all over the pitch and struggle when teams put us under pressure.

As soon as it went to 2-1 and the way it was going, you could sense what was going to unfold.

[Demitri_C]

God what a shit night. Honestly embarrassed as a villa fan tonight. This united team is awful but losing after being two goals up ia nothing short of embarrassing.

The players have let the fans donw badly tonight. Totally unacceptable. We had a extra days rest too. You don't lose like that if you are a top side and chasing champions league

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Surprised that there has been little comment about just how poor McGinn was tonight, at both ends of the pitch. Thought he should have been replaced long before he was.

Probably due to the fact he was the only midfielder trying to take responsibility. Which brings me to Douglas Luiz, a Rolls Royce of a player 6-8 wekks ago. Now he's more like an Austin Princess. Anybody watching his recent performances and reading Villa rating him at £100m must be pissing themselves laughing. He'd be lucky to get half of that due to to recent holiday. On the beach sums him up.

Ramsey, it looks like we're making the same mistake Slippy Gee made, playing him into fitness. He looks at least a month away. No where near ready to start.

[SamTheMouse]

Tonight was the first time this season I've thought we could really do with supplementing the squad with some more quality.

[nick harper]

We gave them encouragement at 2-0 that they were still in the game. Poor in possession, slow passing, bringing them on to us, the high line against Rashford and Garnacho. We could have turned the crowd against them and we did the opposite.

Evra called the 3-2 at half time.

[Astnor]

Over coached at times. Nothing wrong with row Z when the situation calls for it.

Yes overcoaching might be a downside of our welldrilled system under Emery but then again no system without downsides.

[SoccerHQ]

End of the day we can go on about Man. United being flukey (because this is a terrible Man. United team) or Bruno or Garnacho are t***s or whatever. Or the ref should've given us this and that (even though he gave us 9 minutes of injury time).

We were simply not good enough by a long way at 1-2. I was shocked given the season we've had so far and how we've genuinely controlled games we've been winning extremely well that we were that bad as soon as they scored, pretty much looked like we were waiting to be defeated there and then.

That mentality was not good enough by a long way and that needs to be a big lesson to the players as they're going to be far higher stakes games and pressure situations than this tonight in April/May if we want to finish top 4 and actually win something.

There is no need to panic...yet. But that's a warning just like choking that Stoke game all those years ago was and then our season started to unravel spectacularly.

As for the match...what actually was the point in bringing Pau up there if we weren't going to put him on at any point once we started to lose control?

We needed a calm head and instead they all started charging in making daft challenges, disappointed in them all really.

Was a strange Unai impression of Sherwood at Leicester, piling on more forwards when we really needed an extra body in CM just to sit on one of them for a while and stop the ball being circulated out wide time and again.

[Risso]

We're all sickened by it, no doubt about that, but it doesn't mean anything more than any match we lose this season, and given that's only our second league defeat since the end of September, that adds a bit more context.

Well it does, because they're one of the big teams we need to finish above, so losing 3-2 after leading 2-0 means we're now 8 points ahead of them, rather than the 14 we would have been had we won. And we're only 3rd now pending games in hand for Spurs and Man City.

[PaulWinch again]

That was dreadful pretty much from the moment we scored the second goal. We ceded control and just never did anything about.

Love Doug, but he was woeful tonight. Den, Moreno, JJ, and DC were dreadful as well. Unai is brilliant, but got it wrong tonight and didn’t react to what was clearly happening.

That’s a real gut punch of a result, particularly after a fairly flat display against Sheffield Utd. Teams go through dips, and this one hurts, but we need show it’s a blip and come back strong.

[Dave]

And it had to be against those twats, didn't it, who were getting played off the park by Bournemouth in their last home game.

One could even say that Bournemouth's comfortable 3-0 victory at Old Trafford as part of their winning run was impressive and worthy of praise.

(meant in a playful dig-in-the-ribs way, not in a being-a-belligerent-twat way)