Fans Advisory Board meeting

[Legion]

https://villatrust.org.uk/fan-advisory-board-villa-park-redevelopment-new-crest/

[Risso]

Good to see the Trust actually standing up for itself and the wider fanbase. It looks like the new crest is even more of a put up job than Purslow's effort.

[jon collett]

Time to boycott these meetings. They are clearly a sham to tick a Premier League box,

What is the virtue or point of being “in the the know” to attend a one way talking shop which doesn’t serve the purpose it claims?

[Risso]

Time to boycott these meetings. They are clearly a sham to tick a Premier League box,

What is the virtue or point of being “in the the know” to attend a one way talking shop which doesn’t serve the purpose it claims?

Absolutely Jon. It's good to hear from the likes of Dave and the Trust after these, but I think a few other attendees are a bit too awestruck to be perfectly honest.

[dave.woodhall]

Time to boycott these meetings. They are clearly a sham to tick a Premier League box,

What is the virtue or point of being “in the the know” to attend a one way talking shop which doesn’t serve the purpose it claims?

The food's nice.

[Brazilian Villain]

Good to see the Trust actually standing up for itself and the wider fanbase. It looks like the new crest is even more of a put up job than Purslow's effort.

Agreed, and at least Purslow had been CEO for almost five years so would have had more of a feel for the club, rather than a hired gun who'd been in the door 5 minutes.

[pauliewalnuts]

I absolutely do not trust Heck, Hatton or any of these fucking shysters.

That stuff about the north stand is pathetic.

Also saying we’re not selling out by a couple of hundred individual seats scattered around the ground is incredibly misleading.

[nick harper]

Are they really binning the North Stand development because they don’t sell 0.5% of tickets in a 42,000 capacity? That will be singles dotted around the ground surely.

They must have convinced themselves that a 30,000 waiting list does not contain 10,000 fans that would buy a season ticket. The message has changed completely since this guy walked through the door.

[itbrvilla]

Are they really binning the North Stand development because they don’t sell 0.5% of tickets in a 42,000 capacity? That will be singles dotted around the ground surely.

They must have convinced themselves that a 30,000 waiting list does not contain 10,000 fans that would buy a season ticket. The message has changed completely since this guy walked through the door.

I'd rather them just tell us they don't want to spend the money on a rebuild rather than the BS excuses. Being treated like I'm an idiot puts me off wanting to go to matches more than anything else.

[andyh]

If we spend £100m +  on a couple of players in January, I’d rather that than expansion.
The team comes first, right ?

[pauliewalnuts]

Are they really binning the North Stand development because they don’t sell 0.5% of tickets in a 42,000 capacity? That will be singles dotted around the ground surely.

They must have convinced themselves that a 30,000 waiting list does not contain 10,000 fans that would buy a season ticket. The message has changed completely since this guy walked through the door.

It is absolute bullshit.

What bothers me most is we're having a spell of great stuff happening on the pitch, but with the changing, scaling back and now cancellation of the stadium expansion they went back on, with the utter sea of bullshit around the badge prevarication plus the treating us like fucking morons, the corporatisation of the Holte, the absolute total lack of respect shown to the FAB - all of this is sucking the joy and ambition out of what we are doing.

A hotch potch of added seats around the ground, the bowl-isation of what we have thus wrecking the traditional four stands format of the ground which is one major reason it is so loved as traditional, Jesus Christ, it's Ellis-esque.

What they want is a few more seats but a significantly increased revenue per fan - ie much more expensive tickets.

What a bunch of shysters.

[pauliewalnuts]

If we spend £100m +  on a couple of players in January, I’d rather that than expansion.
The team comes first, right ?

We can't spend endlessly on players because of FFP.

We CAN spend what we want on infrastructure improvements, as that is not in the purview of FFP.

Oh, and the reason their answers in that meeting suggest they would rather spend it on players is EXACTLY to provoke responses along the lines of yours (not having a go at you) - it is "just suggest we're spending the cash on players instead, that'll shut them up".

[olaftab]

I absolutely do not trust Heck, Hatton or any of these fucking shysters.

That stuff about the north stand is pathetic.

Also saying we’re not selling out by a couple of hundred individual seats scattered around the ground is incredibly misleading.

Exactly.
In a 42,000 seating arena 200 not being sold is as close to "sold out" as you will ever get. Similar unsold numbers apply to almost every stadium in the world, so yes quite pathetic excuse.
I do have a very bad feeling about Heck's appointment. New strategy could be to get the team into Champions League and then sell the club and Heck is here to make that happen with minimum investment from now on.

[nick harper]

I absolutely do not trust Heck, Hatton or any of these fucking shysters.

That stuff about the north stand is pathetic.

Also saying we’re not selling out by a couple of hundred individual seats scattered around the ground is incredibly misleading.

Exactly.
In a 42,000 seating arena 200 not being sold is as close to "sold out" as you will ever get. Similar unsold numbers apply to almost every stadium in the world, so yes quite pathetic excuse.
I do have a very bad feeling about Heck's appointment. New strategy could be to get the team into Champions League and then sell the club and Heck is here to make that happen with minimum investment from now on.

I guess getting into the champions league will also legitimise another 15% + increase to season tickets in their eyes as well - squeezing more out of the existing fanbase as mentioned. That would push a lot of tickets towards £1,000 - unthinkable a few years ago.

[London Villan]

I bet most of the unsold seats are hospitality too. That is probably the reason. The investment in the North Stand was focused on doubling the hospitality, which in turn, generates the big returns. If they can’t sell what we have now, then adding another 2000+ won’t generate the required revenue.