Fucking hell, what moron put that statement out?"We have repeatedly highlighted the emotional impact on numerous individuals from Poland and the UK who, despite incurring high travel and accommodation costs, were denied tickets."If people are going to book travel and accommodation before they get a ticket, that risk is on them.
Quote from: Richard E on December 02, 2023, 11:54:10 AMQuote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:49:10 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:37:37 AMQuote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:35:31 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:32:27 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:26:09 AMIn whose interest would it be to create a hoax?the "ultras" egos . they seem to thrive off a weird notoriety of being hard men and travel in numbers . Setting women police officers on fire , sad feckersWeren't you stating they were no hard men, it was just pretend reputation, fireworks don't hurt anyone and people should have nothing to fear from them. Pick a lane.yeah exactly , sorry should have put "hard men" . Waving fireworks about singing West End Girls is really intimidating , so is acting hard behind a wall of coppersIt was Go West actually (well the tune) but then most football fans have chants to that. Of course the actual wording could easily be "We come, and kill you all, we come and kill you all" but nah, you seem to have now swerved into "they are not hard at all lane again"‘ Przyjdziemy i zabijemy was wszystkich’ doesn’t scan very I feel sorry for their normal fans who traveled to see their team, spending a good amount of cash in the process, only to be kettled into a car park.They weren't "kettled into a car park" Pat. That was the ticket collection point. They went into there and then refused to take the tickets or were told by their own fans that they couldn't. What were the police supposed to do then - just allow them to roam outside the ground and cause carnage?
Quote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:49:10 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:37:37 AMQuote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:35:31 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:32:27 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:26:09 AMIn whose interest would it be to create a hoax?the "ultras" egos . they seem to thrive off a weird notoriety of being hard men and travel in numbers . Setting women police officers on fire , sad feckersWeren't you stating they were no hard men, it was just pretend reputation, fireworks don't hurt anyone and people should have nothing to fear from them. Pick a lane.yeah exactly , sorry should have put "hard men" . Waving fireworks about singing West End Girls is really intimidating , so is acting hard behind a wall of coppersIt was Go West actually (well the tune) but then most football fans have chants to that. Of course the actual wording could easily be "We come, and kill you all, we come and kill you all" but nah, you seem to have now swerved into "they are not hard at all lane again"‘ Przyjdziemy i zabijemy was wszystkich’ doesn’t scan very I feel sorry for their normal fans who traveled to see their team, spending a good amount of cash in the process, only to be kettled into a car park.
Quote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:37:37 AMQuote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:35:31 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:32:27 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:26:09 AMIn whose interest would it be to create a hoax?the "ultras" egos . they seem to thrive off a weird notoriety of being hard men and travel in numbers . Setting women police officers on fire , sad feckersWeren't you stating they were no hard men, it was just pretend reputation, fireworks don't hurt anyone and people should have nothing to fear from them. Pick a lane.yeah exactly , sorry should have put "hard men" . Waving fireworks about singing West End Girls is really intimidating , so is acting hard behind a wall of coppersIt was Go West actually (well the tune) but then most football fans have chants to that. Of course the actual wording could easily be "We come, and kill you all, we come and kill you all" but nah, you seem to have now swerved into "they are not hard at all lane again"
Quote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:35:31 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:32:27 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:26:09 AMIn whose interest would it be to create a hoax?the "ultras" egos . they seem to thrive off a weird notoriety of being hard men and travel in numbers . Setting women police officers on fire , sad feckersWeren't you stating they were no hard men, it was just pretend reputation, fireworks don't hurt anyone and people should have nothing to fear from them. Pick a lane.yeah exactly , sorry should have put "hard men" . Waving fireworks about singing West End Girls is really intimidating , so is acting hard behind a wall of coppers
Quote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:32:27 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:26:09 AMIn whose interest would it be to create a hoax?the "ultras" egos . they seem to thrive off a weird notoriety of being hard men and travel in numbers . Setting women police officers on fire , sad feckersWeren't you stating they were no hard men, it was just pretend reputation, fireworks don't hurt anyone and people should have nothing to fear from them. Pick a lane.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:26:09 AMIn whose interest would it be to create a hoax?the "ultras" egos . they seem to thrive off a weird notoriety of being hard men and travel in numbers . Setting women police officers on fire , sad feckers
In whose interest would it be to create a hoax?
^ it sounds like they didn't refuse to take tickets because the Legia officials didn't actually try to distribute them.
Quote from: Richard E on December 02, 2023, 11:54:10 AMQuote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:49:10 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:37:37 AMQuote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:35:31 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:32:27 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:26:09 AMIn whose interest would it be to create a hoax?the "ultras" egos . they seem to thrive off a weird notoriety of being hard men and travel in numbers . Setting women police officers on fire , sad feckersWeren't you stating they were no hard men, it was just pretend reputation, fireworks don't hurt anyone and people should have nothing to fear from them. Pick a lane.yeah exactly , sorry should have put "hard men" . Waving fireworks about singing West End Girls is really intimidating , so is acting hard behind a wall of coppersIt was Go West actually (well the tune) but then most football fans have chants to that. Of course the actual wording could easily be "We come, and kill you all, we come and kill you all" but nah, you seem to have now swerved into "they are not hard at all lane again"‘ Przyjdziemy i zabijemy was wszystkich’ doesn’t scan very well.We were in the War Saw bar in the old town after the away game and a few fans were singing to this - their lyrics are stunningly simple: “Legia, Legia Warszawa”. Repeat ad nauseum. Pub was mainly Villa fans and no problems with the Legia fans - had a drink with them and took a few photos together. They said those ultras wearing white / team shirts are their to sing and support their team. The ultras in black are just looking for a fight.I feel sorry for their normal fans who traveled to see their team, spending a good amount of cash in the process, only to be kettled into a car park.
Quote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:49:10 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:37:37 AMQuote from: Somniloquism on December 02, 2023, 11:35:31 AMQuote from: VillaTim on December 02, 2023, 11:32:27 AMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 02, 2023, 11:26:09 AMIn whose interest would it be to create a hoax?the "ultras" egos . they seem to thrive off a weird notoriety of being hard men and travel in numbers . Setting women police officers on fire , sad feckersWeren't you stating they were no hard men, it was just pretend reputation, fireworks don't hurt anyone and people should have nothing to fear from them. Pick a lane.yeah exactly , sorry should have put "hard men" . Waving fireworks about singing West End Girls is really intimidating , so is acting hard behind a wall of coppersIt was Go West actually (well the tune) but then most football fans have chants to that. Of course the actual wording could easily be "We come, and kill you all, we come and kill you all" but nah, you seem to have now swerved into "they are not hard at all lane again"‘ Przyjdziemy i zabijemy was wszystkich’ doesn’t scan very well.
Were any of the Legia fans who got booted from the home sections causing trouble? I wonder if genuine fans who just wanted to see the game and avoid the trouble might have thought that was their best option? Or was it just all chancers there to cause trouble? On that note too, how did staff know if they were Legia fans who travelled or just Polish people living locally, even if Legia fans? I saw a picture of a woman being removed and she didn't look like an obvious Legia fan.
That's the thing about it. If you'd come from the Aston or Trinity Road sides of the ground you wouldn't have seen anything out of the ordinary except wondering why the away section was empty.
...your math...
Quote from: pablo_picasso on December 02, 2023, 12:06:49 PM ...your math...Just NO!