Quote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 04:19:12 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:11:17 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 03:39:00 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 03:36:28 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on December 01, 2023, 03:34:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2023, 03:01:18 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing. Apparently Legia didn't accept any allocation until 4pm yesterday and didn't collect them until 6.15pm.We've launched an official complaint against Legia to UEFA.why on earth would we release tickets that late ? Legia, on Thursday morning, were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. It's not a case of us being late, it is a case of them prevaricating pointlessly.They then refused to take them (ie to accept them at the pick up point) unless all of them were let in, which was clearly never going to happen.why the fuck didn't we give them a deadline way ahead of matchday itself ?? seems ridiculous Read the article above. It explains clearly what happened. They kept saying they weren’t sure they wanted any right up until the day of the game. It’s not up to us to set deadlines.so they didnt sell any tickets until the day of the game ?? makes zero sense to have no deadlines in place ahead of this
Quote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:11:17 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 03:39:00 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 03:36:28 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on December 01, 2023, 03:34:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2023, 03:01:18 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing. Apparently Legia didn't accept any allocation until 4pm yesterday and didn't collect them until 6.15pm.We've launched an official complaint against Legia to UEFA.why on earth would we release tickets that late ? Legia, on Thursday morning, were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. It's not a case of us being late, it is a case of them prevaricating pointlessly.They then refused to take them (ie to accept them at the pick up point) unless all of them were let in, which was clearly never going to happen.why the fuck didn't we give them a deadline way ahead of matchday itself ?? seems ridiculous Read the article above. It explains clearly what happened. They kept saying they weren’t sure they wanted any right up until the day of the game. It’s not up to us to set deadlines.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 03:39:00 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 03:36:28 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on December 01, 2023, 03:34:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2023, 03:01:18 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing. Apparently Legia didn't accept any allocation until 4pm yesterday and didn't collect them until 6.15pm.We've launched an official complaint against Legia to UEFA.why on earth would we release tickets that late ? Legia, on Thursday morning, were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. It's not a case of us being late, it is a case of them prevaricating pointlessly.They then refused to take them (ie to accept them at the pick up point) unless all of them were let in, which was clearly never going to happen.why the fuck didn't we give them a deadline way ahead of matchday itself ?? seems ridiculous
Quote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 03:36:28 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on December 01, 2023, 03:34:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2023, 03:01:18 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing. Apparently Legia didn't accept any allocation until 4pm yesterday and didn't collect them until 6.15pm.We've launched an official complaint against Legia to UEFA.why on earth would we release tickets that late ? Legia, on Thursday morning, were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. It's not a case of us being late, it is a case of them prevaricating pointlessly.They then refused to take them (ie to accept them at the pick up point) unless all of them were let in, which was clearly never going to happen.
Quote from: Rudy Can't Fail on December 01, 2023, 03:34:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2023, 03:01:18 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing. Apparently Legia didn't accept any allocation until 4pm yesterday and didn't collect them until 6.15pm.We've launched an official complaint against Legia to UEFA.why on earth would we release tickets that late ?
Quote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2023, 03:01:18 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing. Apparently Legia didn't accept any allocation until 4pm yesterday and didn't collect them until 6.15pm.We've launched an official complaint against Legia to UEFA.
Quote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing.
I'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?
As we're relying on info from Legia it's hard to know if they actually sold the tickets, if so how many, who bought them etc.
Quote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:30:50 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 04:19:12 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:11:17 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 03:39:00 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 03:36:28 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on December 01, 2023, 03:34:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2023, 03:01:18 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing. Apparently Legia didn't accept any allocation until 4pm yesterday and didn't collect them until 6.15pm.We've launched an official complaint against Legia to UEFA.why on earth would we release tickets that late ? Legia, on Thursday morning, were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. It's not a case of us being late, it is a case of them prevaricating pointlessly.They then refused to take them (ie to accept them at the pick up point) unless all of them were let in, which was clearly never going to happen.why the fuck didn't we give them a deadline way ahead of matchday itself ?? seems ridiculous Read the article above. It explains clearly what happened. They kept saying they weren’t sure they wanted any right up until the day of the game. It’s not up to us to set deadlines.so they didnt sell any tickets until the day of the game ?? makes zero sense to have no deadlines in place ahead of thisEh?No. They had sold the tickets beforehand, they just acted like they were not going to accept them - ie "here are the tickets to distribute to your fans who have already bought them" - at all until a couple of hours before kick off.Clearly they were pushing this "all of us or none of us" line, expecting us to cave.
Quote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 04:34:38 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:30:50 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 04:19:12 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:11:17 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on December 01, 2023, 03:39:00 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 03:36:28 PMQuote from: Rudy Can't Fail on December 01, 2023, 03:34:13 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on December 01, 2023, 03:01:18 PMQuote from: Flamingo Lane on December 01, 2023, 02:58:24 PMI'm still not clear - did Legia actually refuse to distribute tickets to their fans at the place that had been set aside for that purpose? And was it that refusal that left the police needing to decide what to do?I'm not sure but I think we wanted it done in town and they refused, then they said the ultras were in charge of giving them out and those charming lads said all or nothing. Apparently Legia didn't accept any allocation until 4pm yesterday and didn't collect them until 6.15pm.We've launched an official complaint against Legia to UEFA.why on earth would we release tickets that late ? Legia, on Thursday morning, were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. It's not a case of us being late, it is a case of them prevaricating pointlessly.They then refused to take them (ie to accept them at the pick up point) unless all of them were let in, which was clearly never going to happen.why the fuck didn't we give them a deadline way ahead of matchday itself ?? seems ridiculous Read the article above. It explains clearly what happened. They kept saying they weren’t sure they wanted any right up until the day of the game. It’s not up to us to set deadlines.so they didnt sell any tickets until the day of the game ?? makes zero sense to have no deadlines in place ahead of thisEh?No. They had sold the tickets beforehand, they just acted like they were not going to accept them - ie "here are the tickets to distribute to your fans who have already bought them" - at all until a couple of hours before kick off.Clearly they were pushing this "all of us or none of us" line, expecting us to cave.that makes no senseabove it says on THURSDAY MORNING legia were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. Does that mean they sold tickets to fans and were not going to give them out ?
that makes no senseabove it says on THURSDAY MORNING legia were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. Does that mean they sold tickets to fans and were not going to give them out ?
Yes. With most of the European games, the Away fans picks up their tickets on the day at a designated spot from their own club representatives. Those club reps are supposed to go to the home stadium on the day and pick up said tickets.
Quote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:37:00 PMthat makes no senseabove it says on THURSDAY MORNING legia were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. Does that mean they sold tickets to fans and were not going to give them out ?Yes. With most of the European games, the Away fans picks up their tickets on the day at a designated spot from their own club representatives. Those club reps are supposed to go to the home stadium on the day and pick up said tickets. Ads or Olaf can tell you about the same experiences abroad. I believe Mostar and Alkmaar distributed their ones at some bars in the city centre.
My point is we have no idea if that's the case or just what they are saying as it seems they have been uncooperative through most of this.
Quote from: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 04:39:32 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:37:00 PMthat makes no senseabove it says on THURSDAY MORNING legia were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. Does that mean they sold tickets to fans and were not going to give them out ?Yes. With most of the European games, the Away fans picks up their tickets on the day at a designated spot from their own club representatives. Those club reps are supposed to go to the home stadium on the day and pick up said tickets. Ads or Olaf can tell you about the same experiences abroad. I believe Mostar and Alkmaar distributed their ones at some bars in the city centre.i get that part, it's clear. i just don't get what Legia did Thursday am .
The guy who had done UEFA inspections who was at the game and tweeting last night said this:https://twitter.com/cliffordstott/status/1730492369449927162
Quote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:43:08 PMQuote from: Somniloquism on December 01, 2023, 04:39:32 PMQuote from: VillaTim on December 01, 2023, 04:37:00 PMthat makes no senseabove it says on THURSDAY MORNING legia were still telling us that they didn't know if they would accept ANY tickets from us. Does that mean they sold tickets to fans and were not going to give them out ?Yes. With most of the European games, the Away fans picks up their tickets on the day at a designated spot from their own club representatives. Those club reps are supposed to go to the home stadium on the day and pick up said tickets. Ads or Olaf can tell you about the same experiences abroad. I believe Mostar and Alkmaar distributed their ones at some bars in the city centre.i get that part, it's clear. i just don't get what Legia did Thursday am . They said on Thursday morning that they were not sure if they were willing to accept - ie physically take off us to distribute - any tickets as a protest at the reduced allocation.It looks very much like they were trying to force our hand to give them the 2000 or whatever and have them all in.