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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #660 on: February 09, 2024, 06:36:20 PM »
I know what he said and meant. The correlation is though to who is manager. None of those same players under the previous idiot would have been able to reach the heights they have if it wasn’t for Emery. So by the same token I don’t think they will be allowed to free fall either. So context of who is manager matters. Emery took a bunch of relegation haunted players to top 4 in 18 months. Just because they were in free fall before doesn’t mean they will again. Unless Emery turns into Remi Garde or Steven Look at me in the eye Gerrard all of a sudden.

Dean Smith was not an idiot, and was manager in the example given.

Christ on a fucking bike.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #661 on: February 09, 2024, 06:37:59 PM »
Beat Man U, then we can go into easier fixtures against Fulham, Forest and Luton full of confidence. With Spurs after that at home, a win you'd think would almost guarantee us top 4 or 5.

Lose, or even worse, take a battering, and I think we'll go into free fall. We've seen it all too often, and we still have several players left who have "been there, bought the T-shirt".
I think Sunday is pivotal, I would take draw right now and live to fight another day.
Unai Emery knows how important this is:

"Our main objective is being consistent in the Premier League. We are being consistent, we are being successful in what we are doing. Each match is so special, of course the match we played before mattered, and the one on Sunday is very important.

"But against Man Utd, we are playing for six points."

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #662 on: February 09, 2024, 06:39:17 PM »
He means Gerrard and you know it hence 'previous idiot'. You brought up the Grealish years which was just weird.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2024, 06:40:54 PM by Clampy »

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #663 on: February 09, 2024, 06:40:31 PM »
He means Gerrard and you know it. You brought up the Grealish years which was just weird.


Righto Mystic Meg.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #664 on: February 09, 2024, 06:41:56 PM »
He means Gerrard and you know it. You brought up the Grealish years which was just weird.


Righto Mystic Meg.

He said 'previous idiot'. You don't need to be Mystic Meg to read it properly.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #665 on: February 09, 2024, 06:45:47 PM »
We had really bad runs of form under both Smith and Gerrard, which the likes of McGinn, Watkins, Ramsey and Luiz were part of. That is all. I'm not saying it will happen, I just think it might if we lose badly against Man U, confidence is a fragile thing. I hope it won't, obviously, but the possibility is there that the season starts to fizzle out.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #666 on: February 09, 2024, 06:50:57 PM »
He means Gerrard and you know it. You brought up the Grealish years which was just weird.


Righto Mystic Meg.

He said 'previous idiot'. You don't need to be Mystic Meg to read it properly.

Yeah, he talks about the previous manager after I'd given an example that predates that, when Smith was manager, thus negating the blame being all down to Gerrard regarding players form and validating Risso's concern.


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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #667 on: February 09, 2024, 06:52:50 PM »
I don't think any Villa fan would call Dean Smith an idiot.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #668 on: February 09, 2024, 06:53:20 PM »
I know what he said and meant. The correlation is though to who is manager. None of those same players under the previous idiot would have been able to reach the heights they have if it wasn’t for Emery. So by the same token I don’t think they will be allowed to free fall either. So context of who is manager matters. Emery took a bunch of relegation haunted players to top 4 in 18 months. Just because they were in free fall before doesn’t mean they will again. Unless Emery turns into Remi Garde or Steven Look at me in the eye Gerrard all of a sudden.

Dean Smith was not an idiot, and was manager in the example given.

Christ on a fucking bike.

How on earth have you connected what I said to Dean Smith? By previous, I literally meant previous.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #669 on: February 09, 2024, 07:03:02 PM »
BECAUSE THOSE PLAYERS DID IT BEFORE, UNDER SMITH, AS I SAID PREVIOUSLY.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #670 on: February 09, 2024, 07:06:57 PM »
Christ on a fucking bike. Why are you shouting? I clearly said previous meaning Gerrard. You misinterpreted that as also including Dean Smith who I would never refer to as an idiot.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2024, 07:08:31 PM by Toronto Villa »

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #671 on: February 09, 2024, 07:08:08 PM »
It's pretty obvious he didn't mean Smith. I'm laughing at the silliness of it really.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #672 on: February 09, 2024, 07:10:52 PM »
It's pretty obvious he didn't mean Smith. I'm laughing at the silliness of it really.

Yeh I’m leaving this one now. It’s pointless to go on about it.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #673 on: February 09, 2024, 07:13:02 PM »
Thank fuck for that.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #674 on: February 10, 2024, 08:21:04 AM »
Beat Man U, then we can go into easier fixtures against Fulham, Forest and Luton full of confidence. With Spurs after that at home, a win you'd think would almost guarantee us top 4 or 5.

Lose, or even worse, take a battering, and I think we'll go into free fall. We've seen it all too often, and we still have several players left who have "been there, bought the T-shirt".

I feel this way too. We've just been here far too many times before and seen the same ending time after time. But win and while that isn't a guarantee we've cracked anything either, it opens up a really clear pathway. Digne and Torres sliding straight back into that left side of the back 4 fills my cup a great deal.

 


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