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Offline eamonn

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #645 on: February 09, 2024, 04:42:33 PM »
The Man City/Arsenal double-whammy was something else but a win on Sunday would be up there for me in terms of satisfaction. Not cos Yanited are top-level but they have an expensive squad who currently have some momentum behind them and we are licking our wounds from back-to-back collapses at home against a similar level of opposition.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #646 on: February 09, 2024, 04:44:08 PM »
Beat Man U, then we can go into easier fixtures against Fulham, Forest and Luton full of confidence. With Spurs after that at home, a win you'd think would almost guarantee us top 4 or 5.

Lose, or even worse, take a battering, and I think we'll go into free fall. We've seen it all too often, and we still have several players left who have "been there, bought the T-shirt".

Do Emery teams ever go into free-fall?

I don't know. Quite a few of the players he's managing have though.

We didn't win on Wednesday, we did the prior weekend. We didn't win against Newcastle, but won 2 of the previous 4, the other two games being draws. That's not free fall by any definition.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #647 on: February 09, 2024, 04:48:48 PM »
Beat Man U, then we can go into easier fixtures against Fulham, Forest and Luton full of confidence. With Spurs after that at home, a win you'd think would almost guarantee us top 4 or 5.

Lose, or even worse, take a battering, and I think we'll go into free fall. We've seen it all too often, and we still have several players left who have "been there, bought the T-shirt".

Do Emery teams ever go into free-fall?

I don't know. Quite a few of the players he's managing have though.

We didn't win on Wednesday, we did the prior weekend. We didn't win against Newcastle, but won 2 of the previous 4, the other two games being draws. That's not free fall by any definition.

I didn't say it was.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #648 on: February 09, 2024, 04:59:32 PM »
Beat Man U, then we can go into easier fixtures against Fulham, Forest and Luton full of confidence. With Spurs after that at home, a win you'd think would almost guarantee us top 4 or 5.

Lose, or even worse, take a battering, and I think we'll go into free fall. We've seen it all too often, and we still have several players left who have "been there, bought the T-shirt".

Do Emery teams ever go into free-fall?

I don't know. Quite a few of the players he's managing have though.

We didn't win on Wednesday, we did the prior weekend. We didn't win against Newcastle, but won 2 of the previous 4, the other two games being draws. That's not free fall by any definition.

I didn't say it was.

so who are the players that are in free fall? Quite a few suggests a number of the starters which again given the results, suggests none of them really. Dip in form and confidence? Absolutely. But none of them are in free fall.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #649 on: February 09, 2024, 05:30:40 PM »
I can't think of one player in free fall. Free fall is just a throwaway line to make things sound worse than they are.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #650 on: February 09, 2024, 05:44:35 PM »
I may be wrong, but I don't think either of you have read what Risso said.

McGinn, Watkins, Martinez, Luiz and Konza off the top of my head were all part of the team that didn't win a game in the covid season once Grealish got injured, that was pretty free-fally.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #651 on: February 09, 2024, 05:47:55 PM »
I may be wrong, but I don't think either of you have read what Risso said.

McGinn, Watkins, Martinez, Luiz and Konza off the top of my head were all part of the team that didn't win a game in the covid season once Grealish got injured, that was pretty free-fally.

They were part of the team that got us into Europe though. Besides, Grealish is not here anymore. 

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #652 on: February 09, 2024, 05:59:15 PM »
I may be wrong, but I don't think either of you have read what Risso said.

McGinn, Watkins, Martinez, Luiz and Konza off the top of my head were all part of the team that didn't win a game in the covid season once Grealish got injured, that was pretty free-fally.

They were part of the team that got us into Europe though. Besides, Grealish is not here anymore. 

Yes, I had noticed that.

You however seem to have failed to notice that they were predicted to go into free fall, not actually in it, and that for some of the team it's happened before, as per example.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #653 on: February 09, 2024, 06:04:55 PM »
Last Jan-Feb under Emery , we lost three games on trot and let in 11 goals. All the players you mentioned were involved. We ended up qualifying for Europe.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #654 on: February 09, 2024, 06:20:22 PM »
Yes, I had noticed that.

You however seem to have failed to notice that they were predicted to go into free fall, not actually in it, and that for some of the team it's happened before, as per example.

Thanks god for that mate, was thinking that maybe we needed subtitles for the hard of thinking.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #655 on: February 09, 2024, 06:23:28 PM »
Yeah, I know, and it still doesn't change the fact Risso didn't say we were in free fall, some of team have previous for it nor that we've seen it in the past.



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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #656 on: February 09, 2024, 06:25:05 PM »
I know what he said and meant. The correlation is though to who is manager. None of those same players under the previous idiot would have been able to reach the heights they have if it wasn’t for Emery. So by the same token I don’t think they will be allowed to free fall either. So context of who is manager matters. Emery took a bunch of relegation haunted players to top 4 in 18 months. Just because they were in free fall before doesn’t mean they will again. Unless Emery turns into Remi Garde or Steven Look at me in the eye Gerrard all of a sudden.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #657 on: February 09, 2024, 06:29:53 PM »
He did say some players 'Emery is managing' have gone into free fall though. Still waiting to hear who they are.

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #658 on: February 09, 2024, 06:32:00 PM »
I may be wrong, but I don't think either of you have read what Risso said.

McGinn, Watkins, Martinez, Luiz and Konza off the top of my head were all part of the team that didn't win a game in the covid season once Grealish got injured, that was pretty free-fally.

They were part of the team that got us into Europe though. Besides, Grealish is not here anymore.
In ITV FA Cup commentary the other night when Matterface mentioned whatever happened to Grealish?  Dixon said: he sits on the bench at Man City!

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Re: Champions League Contention
« Reply #659 on: February 09, 2024, 06:34:14 PM »
He did say some players 'Emery is managing' have gone into free fall though. Still waiting to hear who they are.


In the past, as Lee has explained several times now.

 


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