Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread

[Bully2345]

But linesman putting their flag up 30 seconds after the offence occurs is crazy. Let the game play to its conclusion then go back. Would that be better?

They are advised to delay the flag in case it leads to a goal. Then they put the flag up to advise that the on-field decision is offside even if a goal is scored so VAR has to confirm / deny it. If there isn't a goal scoring chance, but the ball is still in play, then they also flag as VAR wouldn't go back that far to call it.

So wouldn't they be better not flagging at all?

If it's a goal and it was onside - the goal stands
If it's a goal, but offside this would be checked by VAR.

By doing that, it changes the entire path of the game. They don't flag initially if there is a chance of an immediate goal. It's five seconds, maybe ten seconds. They then go back to the free kick because that's where play would have stopped without VAR.

You can't let either team gain an advantage from where the ball ends up following a missed chance because they are only playing on until the point the chance is scored/missed and no more

[London Villan]

I'm at a loss how to fix this in an acceptable way?

[Nev]

I'm at a loss how to fix this in an acceptable way?

Get rid of VAR and if the assistant ref thinks it's offside he raises his flag to indicate so to the referee. The referee then halts play and awards a free kick.

It worked perfectly well before, given there will always be a margin for error becuase the officials are human.

[baddowvillans]

Isn't the danger of a late flag that a clearly offside player can benefit by being played back onside by a defender "intentionally playing a ball" (that is not a save) who then scores and the offside player is not punished for an illegal play?

[tomd2103]

I'm at a loss how to fix this in an acceptable way?

Yeah, I'm not either.  I suppose you could say that assistant only raises a flag if a goal.is scored and it is just play on otherwise, but then there could still be an advantage if the ball goes out for a corner or the attacking team still have it in the final third. 

[astonvilla82]

I'm at a loss how to fix this in an acceptable way?

Get rid of VAR and if the assistant ref thinks it's offside he raises his flag to indicate so to the referee. The referee then halts play and awards a free kick.

It worked perfectly well before, given there will always be a margin for error becuase the officials are human.

Problem with that is their mates in the top 4 would probably gain from that, where as VAR can check it

[Exeter 77]

I think the practice of late flagging will eventually lead to an injury from some last ditch tackling and will only be reviewed when it happens to a high profile player.

[Percy McCarthy]

I think the practice of late flagging will eventually lead to an injury from some last ditch tackling and will only be reviewed when it happens to a high profile player.

I’m not sure but at the time someone said there was an offside when Mings was injured.

[Brazilian Villain]

I think the practice of late flagging will eventually lead to an injury from some last ditch tackling and will only be reviewed when it happens to a high profile player.

I’m not sure but at the time someone said there was an offside Mings was injured.

That's my recollection too.

[OCD]

Semi Automated Offside technology will eventually lead to there being no linesmen anyway - https://www.fifa.com/technical/football-technology/football-technologies-and-innovations-at-the-fifa-world-cup-2022/semi-automated-offside-technology.

[Mister E]

I think the practice of late flagging will eventually lead to an injury from some last ditch tackling and will only be reviewed when it happens to a high profile player.

I’m not sure but at the time someone said there was an offside when Mings was injured.

Correct - the injury occurred before the linesman flagged for offside. If it had been flagged seconds earlier Mings may have not done his ACL .... but that is, of course, speculative.

[WarszaVillan]

I'm at a loss how to fix this in an acceptable way?

Get rid of VAR and if the assistant ref thinks it's offside he raises his flag to indicate so to the referee. The referee then halts play and awards a free kick.

It worked perfectly well before, given there will always be a margin for error becuase the officials are human.

Problem with that is their mates in the top 4 would probably gain from that, where as VAR can check it

I would be in favour of this. But we'd have to change our style of play. Our high-line would be too risky without VAR.

[TelfordVilla]

I am in favour of clubs having 2 VAR appeals. Leave it all up to the ref but if you feel an injustice has been done appeal. Win your appeal and you retain 2 appeals. Lose it and you've lost one of your appeals.

[Border villan]

This will add even more time to a game if teams win their reviews and then they are able to have more reviews.

[Steve67]

I'm at a loss how to fix this in an acceptable way?

Get rid of VAR and if the assistant ref thinks it's offside he raises his flag to indicate so to the referee. The referee then halts play and awards a free kick.

It worked perfectly well before, given there will always be a margin for error becuase the officials are human.

Amen! Totally agree.