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Author Topic: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread  (Read 24335 times)

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #120 on: November 13, 2023, 05:56:38 AM »
I was disappointed not to see a Zaniolo 'worldie™' but you can't have it all.

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #121 on: November 13, 2023, 07:17:34 AM »
I was disappointed not to see a Zaniolo 'worldie™' but you can't have it all.

Same. There's more chance of me scoring a 'worldie' than him, but we live in moderate hope.

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #122 on: November 13, 2023, 09:11:16 AM »
I've not seen it mentioned on here and most of us were nonplussed at the time but after the penalty was overturned why did the ref not give us the corner?

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #123 on: November 13, 2023, 09:16:35 AM »
I've not seen it mentioned on here and most of us were nonplussed at the time but after the penalty was overturned why did the ref not give us the corner?

it was certainly a talking point in our sections, maybe he saw the ball rebound off Watkins on the replay? Did the ball not hit the defenders arm? I haven't seen it again.

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #124 on: November 13, 2023, 09:18:43 AM »
1st half in total control, 2nd half they changed things, and Wilson made a difference for them

The performance of McGinn was superb.

Another fantastic result, in December in the 76/77 season on a Wednesday evening we beat Liverpool 5-1, lets hope that we repeat the result against City

Our December fixtures are tough, if we can still be 5th by end of December, then finishing in the top 4 is a real possibility

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #125 on: November 13, 2023, 09:20:24 AM »
I've not seen it mentioned on here and most of us were nonplussed at the time but after the penalty was overturned why did the ref not give us the corner?

it was certainly a talking point in our sections, maybe he saw the ball rebound off Watkins on the replay? Did the ball not hit the defenders arm? I haven't seen it again.

Because once he blew for the penalty, the ball was effectively dead, so the fact that it went out after that didn't mean it was a corner.

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #126 on: November 13, 2023, 09:32:56 AM »
I've not seen it mentioned on here and most of us were nonplussed at the time but after the penalty was overturned why did the ref not give us the corner?

it was certainly a talking point in our sections, maybe he saw the ball rebound off Watkins on the replay? Did the ball not hit the defenders arm? I haven't seen it again.

At a guess, it must be something like once the ref awards the penalty on field, then all subsequent play is deemed as the ball being dead. The ref dropped the ball to the keeper rather than a goal kick being taken.

It was a poor decision to give the penalty initially. The ball only hit the defender in the face

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #127 on: November 13, 2023, 09:34:22 AM »
I've not seen it mentioned on here and most of us were nonplussed at the time but after the penalty was overturned why did the ref not give us the corner?

it was certainly a talking point in our sections, maybe he saw the ball rebound off Watkins on the replay? Did the ball not hit the defenders arm? I haven't seen it again.

Because once he blew for the penalty, the ball was effectively dead, so the fact that it went out after that didn't mean it was a corner.
Didn't he give a drop ball of sorts? Leno was taking a few touches then passed it.

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #128 on: November 13, 2023, 09:34:40 AM »
I've not seen it mentioned on here and most of us were nonplussed at the time but after the penalty was overturned why did the ref not give us the corner?

it was certainly a talking point in our sections, maybe he saw the ball rebound off Watkins on the replay? Did the ball not hit the defenders arm? I haven't seen it again.

Because once he blew for the penalty, the ball was effectively dead, so the fact that it went out after that didn't mean it was a corner.

But then the game has to restart with a drop ball not a goal kick I don't think that's what happened.

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #129 on: November 13, 2023, 09:39:15 AM »
Surely the ball was out before he blew?

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #130 on: November 13, 2023, 09:41:25 AM »
The ball was dead. I think play will always start with a drop ball when a penalty is given and then rescinded. They'd have to change the protocols to give a corner.

I don't think the referee got much wrong yesterday but he was getting pelters for every decision because of the VAR anger, even when he correctly pulled back a free kick when the ball was moving, for example

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #131 on: November 13, 2023, 09:42:02 AM »
Thanks all, apologies due to the ref who I called all the names under the sun. Helps to know the rules I suppose.

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #132 on: November 13, 2023, 09:42:39 AM »
Can we challenge for the drop ball?

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #133 on: November 13, 2023, 09:45:07 AM »
The ball was dead. I think play will always start with a drop ball when a penalty is given and then rescinded. They'd have to change the protocols to give a corner.

I don't think the referee got much wrong yesterday but he was getting pelters for every decision because of the VAR anger, even when he correctly pulled back a free kick when the ball was moving, for example

So the more equitable way to officiate this type of scenario is to let the ball go out for a corner and then ‘review’ if it was a penalty or not. Otherwise the attacking team is unduly robbed of a corner.

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Re: Aston Villa v Fulham Post-Match Thread
« Reply #134 on: November 13, 2023, 09:47:42 AM »
The ball was dead. I think play will always start with a drop ball when a penalty is given and then rescinded. They'd have to change the protocols to give a corner.

I don't think the referee got much wrong yesterday but he was getting pelters for every decision because of the VAR anger, even when he correctly pulled back a free kick when the ball was moving, for example

So the more equitable way to officiate this type of scenario is to let the ball go out for a corner and then ‘review’ if it was a penalty or not. Otherwise the attacking team is unduly robbed of a corner.

Then you have the scenario of allowing play to continue when it's offside in case there is a goal. And that still riles people up even though it's been four years

 


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