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Author Topic: Player Discipline, Bookings and Suspension  (Read 15339 times)

Offline eamonn

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #30 on: November 26, 2023, 06:07:28 PM »
When do these all reset to zero? Is it a Christmas present for the players concerned or do we have to wait til January?

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #31 on: November 26, 2023, 06:49:45 PM »
When do these all reset to zero? Is it a Christmas present for the players concerned or do we have to wait til January?

They don't, it's a sliding threshold:

5 in the first 19 is a 1 game ban
10 in the season is a 2 game ban

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #32 on: November 26, 2023, 09:03:54 PM »
When do these all reset to zero? Is it a Christmas present for the players concerned or do we have to wait til January?

They don't, it's a sliding threshold:

5 in the first 19 is a 1 game ban
10 in the season is a 2 game ban
30th December is when the threshold raises to 10 Yellow cards.
4 Yellows  = close to suspension: Digne, Cash and Luiz.
3 Yellows: McGinn
2 Yellows : Martínez, Duran and Zaniolo, Watkins

Players above at most need to negotiate these 6 games.

Bournemouth (A)   
Man City (H)   
Arsenal (H)   
Brentford (A)   
Sheffield Utd(H)
Man Utd (A)

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #33 on: November 26, 2023, 09:05:56 PM »
I hope that doesn’t mean Donk against Bournemouth.

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2023, 09:22:44 AM »
I hope that doesn’t mean Donk against Bournemouth.
In the Prem
Dendocker has played 7 minutes this season.
Chambers zero minutes
Preference neither.

For Bournemouth:
Douglas Luiz  has started every Prem game.
We could see the duo of John McGinn and Luiz , both stated every Prem game, to keep things solid in the absence of Boubacar Kamara.
Luiz will not be able to go forward as much perhaps without Kamara but Ramsey or Tielemans can be the midfielder that does that role.

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2023, 11:32:27 AM »
I hope that doesn’t mean Donk against Bournemouth.

I imagine McGinn and Luiz will be the central 2 but it would be interesting if Iroegbunam impressed Thursday night.

The suspension rules are a bit harsh for players who are ever presents (or close to that). It favours squads that rotate their players.

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2023, 11:52:42 AM »
Red Cards.

Sending Off and automatic one match Suspension.
Denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring
opportunity by a handball offence.

Denying a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity to an
opponent whose overall movement is towards the offender’s
goal by an offence punishable by a free kick

Receiving a second caution in the same match.

2 matches Suspension:
Using offensive, insulting or abusive language and/or gestures.

3 Matches Suspension:
Serious foul play
Violent conduct

6 Matches Suspension:
Spitting at an opponent or any other person

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2023, 12:28:02 PM »
I hope that doesn’t mean Donk against Bournemouth.

Will surely just be Tielemans in and Bailey starting aswell if we revert to four at the back.

Not sure why UE is so allergic to starting Youri in premier league games. Really good from the start v Fulham and set up the winner yesterday and was composed in other parts of the game.

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2023, 12:37:56 PM »
I hope that doesn’t mean Donk against Bournemouth.

Will surely just be Tielemans in and Bailey starting aswell if we revert to four at the back.

Not sure why UE is so allergic to starting Youri in premier league games. Really good from the start v Fulham and set up the winner yesterday and was composed in other parts of the game.

I'd be starting Tielemans as well. Surely a much better idea than Cash wide right and with some actual proven success behind it.

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2023, 04:00:51 PM »
When do cards 'reset' is it at the halfway point?

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2023, 04:13:40 PM »
Usually is.

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2023, 04:37:45 PM »
When do cards 'reset' is it at the halfway point?

19 matches in for 10 cards to be a ban, however if a player was on 9 on 19 matches and got one on match 20, they would be banned for the totting up to 10. Personally I think they should have a ruling based on squad registry in the August Window and January one, so if a new player is a dirty bastard, they still get one match ban after 5 matches instead of being 10.

Or just keep it as for every 5 yellows, you get a ban.

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2023, 03:44:43 PM »
Duran and Zaniolo really need to watch discipline a lot more.
I feel both have let themselves down with bookings this season.

So after 14 matches Premier matches played.
5 Yellows: Kamara
4 Yellows  = : Close to Suspension Digne, Cash and Luiz.
3 Yellows: McGinn, Zaniolo, Duran
2 Yellows : Martínez, Watkins,Konsa.

5 more  games to negotiate and get beyond 19 matches and threshold of 5 yellow suspension.

Man City (H)   
Arsenal (H)   
Brentford (A)   
Sheffield Utd(H)
Man Utd (A)

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2023, 03:50:21 PM »
Thanks for the update, Footy. Fingers crossed that Digne, Cash and Luiz stay out of bother tonight.

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Re: Discipline and Suspension Watch 23/24
« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2023, 04:17:19 PM »
Todays Official for Villa v Man City .
John Brookes
Villa Unbeaten in his 6 Games with him as ref 5 Villa Wins 1 Draw no defeats
Including epic 3-0 home win V Newcastle

In total this season has 9  Prem Matches including 3-1 Villa Luton. (No Man City)
Booked 5 players in match
3 Players Villa: Zaniolo, Cash and Kamara all for fouls.

John Brookes has Sent off the most players this season
Issued 4 Red Cards.


Brookes Red Cards:
Straight Red: violent conduct
Straight Red: 1 professional foul
2 players second booking (one for diving)

Yellow cards: 43
Average 4.44 yellow Cards a Game

7 Yellow Cards for Dissent
4 for time wasting

Awarded 3 pens this season.
Including 2 in West Ham Chelsea
And in his last game was the ref who issued a dive for Martial in Everton V Man Utd overturned by VAR for a pen

 


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