2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.

[Sexual Ealing]

PSG looking to loan out Hugo Ekitike, according to Big Fab. No idea if he's any good, but he is a striker.

Edit: no mention of us in the tweet, btw.

[pablo_picasso]

I'd rather we just leave Rogers now.  I'm sure we can make better use of £15m in the summer.

If we were talking about a player who would likely be straight up to speed and help us secure top 5 I'd probably be for it.  But it seems to me he's very much a work in progress.  Unless Ramsey has had a major setback I hope we just move on.

The fact that Boro appear to be looking towards a world class potential fee for a player who I doubt will ever be world class means that we should move on.

Don't get me wrong, that is Boros prerogative, but we should not be entertaining the idea for much longer.

I don't mind paying £15M+ for Roony Bardghji, for example, but Rogers is a squad filler type player in my humble opinion.

I’m not sure what a world class fee is, but £15m isn’t that big. If he went onto be a reasonable premier league player we would comfortably recoup that.

It's subjective, thats what it is. 

In my subjective humble opinion, paying £15M-£20M is reasonable for what could be considered a potential "world class" prospect.

ManC are paying around that fee for some of the South Americans recently. Brighton manage to get them much lower thanks to their owners 'scouting software'. Chelsea pay all of the money because they are a basket case of a club.

I suppose there fee is also subject to how much experience they have at their age & at what level was that experience gained.

But then again, I suppose "world class" is also subjective...

[OCD]

I was hoping Emery/Monchi had a couple of unknown diamonds from the Spanish league like Moreno up their sleeve for this window.

Suspect that might be more the summer, picking up a couple more Kamara’s would be handy :-)

Monchi likes Mario Hermoso and it appears we have contacted his agent.He has played a few times for Spain and will be out of contract in the summer at Atlectico Madrid.He's a central defender who can also play at left back.

You would have to worry about Mings' future if we went for him.

As much as I love Mings if he is back in the squad for the start of the season it’s a bonus not something to be relied upon.  Seems a lot of players returning from such a nasty injury need that first few months to get up to speed and they pick up other knocks.

Bringing a player in on loan for a few months to cover a player who's recovering from a bad injury is one thing. Signing someone like Hermoso on a Bosman and paying him the wages he would demand when we already have Pau Torres as the one left sided centre back would be something else.

[chrisw1]

I’m not sure what a world class fee is, but £15m isn’t that big. If he went onto be a reasonable premier league player we would comfortably recoup that.

You reckon?  We've seemed to struggle to recoup money for loads of players you might think would or should be reasonable premier league players in the past.  I wouldn't put it past us struggling to do it again.

(Traore, Dendonker, Chambers, Hause, Sanson, Nakamba, Guilbert, ElGhazi, Hourihane, Kalinic etc.  In fact, other than Grealish, I can't recall comfortably recouping much more than £15m for many potentially reasonable Premier League Players for some time.  (Chuck is more of an exception given he was widely considered to have fantastic potential)

[pablo_picasso]

I was hoping Emery/Monchi had a couple of unknown diamonds from the Spanish league like Moreno up their sleeve for this window.

Suspect that might be more the summer, picking up a couple more Kamara’s would be handy :-)

Monchi likes Mario Hermoso and it appears we have contacted his agent.He has played a few times for Spain and will be out of contract in the summer at Atlectico Madrid.He's a central defender who can also play at left back.

You would have to worry about Mings' future if we went for him.

As much as I love Mings if he is back in the squad for the start of the season it’s a bonus not something to be relied upon.  Seems a lot of players returning from such a nasty injury need that first few months to get up to speed and they pick up other knocks.

Bringing a player in on loan for a few months to cover a player who's recovering from a bad injury is one thing. Signing someone like Hermoso on a Bosman and paying him the wages he would demand when we already have Pau Torres as the one left sided centre back would be something else.

I would prefer that we look at cheap options running down their contracts that could be cover & competition to what we already have. Take Lloyd Kelly from Bournemouth for example. He would be excellent cover on the left side of our defence, but he also offers a more defensively solid option at LB too. His contract is out in the summer & he is free. For the right side of our defence, we should look at Tosin Adarabioyo. Another on a free contract in the summer & would offer excellent cover & competition for Konsa. And at a push, either could be used at RB if a defensive option is needed. But hopefully the new Serbian kid will do that.

That central defensive quartet would set us up for several years to come & it offers comfort on the ball, some pace, passing ability, etc...

We could then sell both Mings & Carlos for FFP/PSR.

[pablo_picasso]

I’m not sure what a world class fee is, but £15m isn’t that big. If he went onto be a reasonable premier league player we would comfortably recoup that.

You reckon?  We've seemed to struggle to recoup money for loads of players you might think would or should be reasonable premier league players in the past.  I wouldn't put it past us struggling to do it again.

(Traore, Dendonker, Chambers, Hause, Sanson, Nakamba, Guilbert, ElGhazi, Hourihane, Kalinic etc.  In fact, other than Grealish, I can't recall comfortably recouping much more than £15m for many potentially reasonable Premier League Players for some time.  (Chuck is more of an exception given he was widely considered to have fantastic potential)

Our inability to milk the most out of deals recently has been a big issue for me.

I mentioned it about a week ago but I was exhausted & did not push the discussion.

[PaulWinch again]

I’m not sure what a world class fee is, but £15m isn’t that big. If he went onto be a reasonable premier league player we would comfortably recoup that.

You reckon?  We've seemed to struggle to recoup money for loads of players you might think would or should be reasonable premier league players in the past.  I wouldn't put it past us struggling to do it again.

(Traore, Dendonker, Chambers, Hause, Sanson, Nakamba, Guilbert, ElGhazi, Hourihane, Kalinic etc.  In fact, other than Grealish, I can't recall comfortably recouping much more than £15m for many potentially reasonable Premier League Players for some time.  (Chuck is more of an exception given he was widely considered to have fantastic potential)

I’m not sure any of those, possibly Den, would be classed as a reasonable Premier League player. They either never reached that level, or were on the way down when we signed them. A 21 year old for £15m isn’t that bonkers if we believe in his ability. That’s not to say it would work out, but at a concept level it seems plausible.

[chrisw1]

I’m not sure what a world class fee is, but £15m isn’t that big. If he went onto be a reasonable premier league player we would comfortably recoup that.

You reckon?  We've seemed to struggle to recoup money for loads of players you might think would or should be reasonable premier league players in the past.  I wouldn't put it past us struggling to do it again.

(Traore, Dendonker, Chambers, Hause, Sanson, Nakamba, Guilbert, ElGhazi, Hourihane, Kalinic etc.  In fact, other than Grealish, I can't recall comfortably recouping much more than £15m for many potentially reasonable Premier League Players for some time.  (Chuck is more of an exception given he was widely considered to have fantastic potential)

I’m not sure any of those, possibly Den, would be classed as a reasonable Premier League player. They either never reached that level, or were on the way down when we signed them. A 21 year old for £15m isn’t that bonkers if we believe in his ability. That’s not to say it would work out, but at a concept level it seems plausible.

oh well, looks like we've signed him.  Lets hope he's brilliant.

UTV

[Jon Crofts]

Rogers on his way according to Fabrizio.

[Exeter 77]

Rogers on his way according to Fabrizio.

Anyone got any ideas on length of the contract? It's a sad state of affairs when one of my first thoughts on signing a player is amortisation.

[Dave]

A 21 year old for £15m isn’t that bonkers if we believe in his ability.

Why is he worth three times what Philogene was?

[PaulWinch again]

A 21 year old for £15m isn’t that bonkers if we believe in his ability.

Why is he worth three times what Philogene was?

I don’t know, maybe he was undervalued? If you look at promising players we’ve sold the £5m fee looks like the outlier. Maybe something drove that fee? It’s a similar fee to Aaron Ramsey, so I can see it as ballpark logical.

[Exeter 77]

Rogers on his way according to Fabrizio.

Anyone got any ideas on length of the contract? It's a sad state of affairs when one of my first thoughts on signing a player is amortisation.

With apologies for quoting myself. 5 and a half year deal so if we have to pay the full amount it will be just under £3M per season

[pablo_picasso]

A 21 year old for £15m isn’t that bonkers if we believe in his ability.

Why is he worth three times what Philogene was?

He's not...

[Chris Smith]

A 21 year old for £15m isn’t that bonkers if we believe in his ability.

Why is he worth three times what Philogene was?

He’s probably not “worth” that but moving to a Premier League club rather than from one is maybe the reason for the price. If we’d asked that for Phologene I doubt he’d have moved.