2024 January transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.

[PaulWinch again]

Then he’s got a choice to make I suppose.

[ozzjim]

I do wonder how much this move is motivated by the lack of form and fitness of Ramsey since he came back. Rodgers had very very good work rate and pace, can carry a ball and a good left for, so clearly will be an asset in a few roles.

[AV84]

As far as all of our summer signings go, Torres is probably the only one who has been outstanding from very early on. Diaby, Zaniolo, and Tielemans have taken time to settle, or started well and then fallen off a bit. And then Ramsey hasn't come back as good as he was last season. If it wasn't for Bailey having some kind of resurgence of late we'd be looking a bit shaky in that general area. I'd assume it's a combination of all of those things that have us looking at Rogers. There were a few reports that we'd agreed a fee for Ngonge a week or so ago, but he wanted to stay in Italy. So maybe those reports were correct, and with him signing foe Napoli we've moved on to this guy. Could also explain why it wasn't negotiated with the Azaz deal?

[ROBBO]

Don't be too hard on Ramsey, after an extended injury it takes weeks to get anywhere near the fitness required for the premiership. His sharness is missing and that will come, if he were to be put on the market all top clubs would be after him, he's that good.

[AV84]

^ I'm not criticising Ramsey, I'm just stating a fact. On paper we're overflowing with talent in that general area of the pitch, but as far as form goes, we're struggling a bit.

[Somniloquism]

Yes, not doing a deal at the same time as Azaz looks very, very odd.

Reckon there's been some agent activity since then.

Might also be that a deal / swap might affect the FFP dealings.

[robleflaneur]

Morgan Rogers  has come through the England age groups up to u20 level.
Man City obviously liked what they saw and poached him off the Albion youth team,will fit in well then.His physique over 6 feet tall ,the metric measurements vary according to different internet sites ,means he might be able to play in any forward role.Any possible understudy to Ollie is a welcome addition.

[Brazilian Villain]

Any possible understudy to Ollie is a welcome addition.

Some Born fans seem to think he's an Ollie type player (good work rate etc, maybe better technically) and we're bypassing the Brentford bit.

[edgysatsuma89]

It is a bit strange by Man City if they have let someone go at 20/21 for such short change  just 6 months ago if he is deemed good enough for a team challenging for the top 4. I get that they'll probably have a sell on clause but it still won't be much. Not judging the lad, I've hardly seen him play.

[brontebilly]

Don't be too hard on Ramsey, after an extended injury it takes weeks to get anywhere near the fitness required for the premiership. His sharness is missing and that will come, if he were to be put on the market all top clubs would be after him, he's that good.

Absolutely, he's struggling this season but he's a cracking player. Even that day against Brighton when he came on the difference he made to the team was ridiculous. Unfortunately that was the only time this season really that he made a big impact. I don't think this kid from Boro is going to get anywhere near Ramsey's best, this season anyway.

Without hearing about FFP, it just seems strange to me why we didn't put that investment and effort into improving Aaron Ramsey.

[john2710]

I was expecting Ramsey to really push on this season & I'm sure he would have but for the injury. He'll have a strong second half of the season. If we're going to let anyone go in the summer it will be him, purely from an FFP perspective.

As far as Rogers is concerned, he's one development & a replacement for Zaniolo.

[RamboandBruno]

Don't be too hard on Ramsey, after an extended injury it takes weeks to get anywhere near the fitness required for the premiership. His sharness is missing and that will come, if he were to be put on the market all top clubs would be after him, he's that good.

Absolutely, he's struggling this season but he's a cracking player. Even that day against Brighton when he came on the difference he made to the team was ridiculous. Unfortunately that was the only time this season really that he made a big impact. I don't think this kid from Boro is going to get anywhere near Ramsey's best, this season anyway.

Without hearing about FFP, it just seems strange to me why we didn't put that investment and effort into improving Aaron Ramsey.

It might be as simple as Emery and the coaching staff couldn’t really see it with A Ramsey, he hasn’t really pulled up any trees at Burnley. To be honest I don’t know anything about Rogers and can’t remember him against us a few weeks ago. Guess in Emery we trust.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

Don't be too hard on Ramsey, after an extended injury it takes weeks to get anywhere near the fitness required for the premiership. His sharness is missing and that will come, if he were to be put on the market all top clubs would be after him, he's that good.

Absolutely, he's struggling this season but he's a cracking player. Even that day against Brighton when he came on the difference he made to the team was ridiculous. Unfortunately that was the only time this season really that he made a big impact. I don't think this kid from Boro is going to get anywhere near Ramsey's best, this season anyway.

Without hearing about FFP, it just seems strange to me why we didn't put that investment and effort into improving Aaron Ramsey.

It might be as simple as Emery and the coaching staff couldn’t really see it with A Ramsey, he hasn’t really pulled up any trees at Burnley. To be honest I don’t know anything about Rogers and can’t remember him against us a few weeks ago. Guess in Emery we trust.

Aaron Ramsey has done more for Villa wearing a Burnley shirt than he did when he was on our books by giving that penalty away!

[Risso]

It looks like we're treading a bit of a fine line with FFP, in common with just about everybody else. But it seems strange that you'd go to all the bother of trying to bring in that bloke from Barcelona, then bring Monchi in, for our main target to be some kid from Middlesbrough with wholly unexceptional stats.

[pablo_picasso]

The Aaron Ramsey / Burnley situation is one of the reasons why I was fundamentally against selling & not loaning the academy players out.

Burnley are a shit show on the pitch. Aaron Ramsey is suffering due to that.

His form last year shows that at a certain level, he can perform well. That level is upper Championship / lower Prem as first choice. Midtable / cup games as backup.

But like when Louis Barry was struggling at Ipswich, again, because they were a shit show of a club, we had the option of recalling the player & sending him to a club that wasn't a shit show. And He found his form before his injury.

At 20 years old, Aaron Ramsey still has developing to do.

So instead of having 6 months of his development ruined by a shit show club, he now has at least a year & probably more because we aren't likely to be bringing him back & he is most likely to be back in the Championship again next year.

I genuinely believe that with a proper development plan & being at Villa still, he could have been offering us good squad depth in the cups, against lower quality Prem teams & in Europe this year.

And next year, who knows.

And we wouldn't be looking at spending £10M on a 21.5 year old who hasn't performed better than Aaron Ramsey did in the Championship...