Aston Villa v HŠK Zrinjski Mostar Post-Match Thread

[PaulTheVillan]

Some of the comments about Tielemans in the match thread

It's the match thread though.

and? You seem to get really worked up if anyone comments on the match thread but it go so bad that someone who wasn't watching had to ask what he'd done when a misplaced pass resulted in 5 people calling him shit, it's just fucking silly when it gets to that.

Tielemans was wank.

[Beard82]

I thought second-half the team was feeling the weight.  I thought Cash made a huge difference. 

Zinolo needs a goal - I think he could be something special but it feels like he is over-trying

End of the day - this is what the best teams do, find a result.  Saw it against Palace, and again tonight.  We've misfired in a few games but at the same time tonight, we had Mings, Ramsey, Diaby, Emi, Moreno all missing.

Teilemans is not right.  I think its a mental thing (and I mean that in the most understanding of ways) - his head doesn't seem in the right place for someone who is clearly so talented.

I worry about Carlos and Lenglet - yet to see either are any good. 

[Somniloquism]

Great to win at the end, but we're a million miles off going for in this. Paying the price fior not strengthening properly in the Summer

Whilst I don't think he would have played them all even if fit, it is worth remembering that of what would have been the main squad at the start of the season, we don't have Buendia, Mings, Moreno, Kamara, Diaby or Ramsey at the moment. Tielemans also looked decent in the pre-season and then decided to not even show up in competitive matches this season. The weak link we should have strengthened is still the RB position and they do have to take responsibility for not getting a decent replacement there, especially as Cash also plays internationals so doesn't even have the luxury of resting once every 6 weeks or so.

[PaulWinch again]

Good win, got stronger and pleased.

I can imagine the match thread, but I'd agree with Paul, Tielemans grew stringer as the game went on and there were some good signs there. I think he needs a run of games to get his eye in fully.

I love the team ethic, I love that they never give in.

Yeah with Tielemans there were two very nearly brilliant passes. Clearly there was still some ropey play in there too, but you could see what he was and could be again. He just needs to get his confidence up.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

Happy with the three points. Considering the number of corners we had, if I was that scruffy roadie git on our bench I'd be tidying up my CV and getting a haircut in the morning.

[PaulWinch again]

Some of the comments about Tielemans in the match thread

It's the match thread though.

and? You seem to get really worked up if anyone comments on the match thread but it go so bad that someone who wasn't watching had to ask what he'd done when a misplaced pass resulted in 5 people calling him shit, it's just fucking silly when it gets to that.

Tielemans was wank.

No he wasn’t. He wasn’t great and clearly needs to improve, but in that second half there were signs of him finding his way back.

[ADVILLAFAN]

Much better second half. They defended as if their lives depended on it.

Deserved the winner, lovely by Bert, Cash and a precision header.

[KevinGage]

Not that it matters now, but can anyone clarify why that first penalty shout wasn't given?

I get it hit is bonce first and then it hits his arm.

Is it not a pen if a defender -in theory- controls the ball with his foot first and then flicks it into his hands Gaelic football style?

[Smirker]

Some of the comments about Tielemans in the match thread

It's the match thread though.

and? You seem to get really worked up if anyone comments on the match thread but it go so bad that someone who wasn't watching had to ask what he'd done when a misplaced pass resulted in 5 people calling him shit, it's just fucking silly when it gets to that.

Tielemans was wank.

Yes. Especially first half.

[Villan82]

Great to win it at the end and hopefully we kick on in the competition now

[PaulWinch again]

Not that it matters now, but can anyone clarify why that first penalty shout wasn't given?

I get it hit is bonce first and then it hits his arm.

Is it not a pen if a defender -in theory- controls the ball with his foot first and then flicks it into his hands Gaelic football style?

Well it probably would be in that scenario. In the case of the non-pen it smashed into his face and happened to hit his hand on the rebound. Not sure what you can possibly do in that situation.

[Risso]

Some of the comments about Tielemans in the match thread

It's the match thread though.

and? You seem to get really worked up if anyone comments on the match thread but it go so bad that someone who wasn't watching had to ask what he'd done when a misplaced pass resulted in 5 people calling him shit, it's just fucking silly when it gets to that.

People are just watching the game and posting as if they're at the match. It usually moves at such a pace that nobody is aware that somebody else has posted the same thing, it wasn't a concerted effort to get on hs back.

[PaulTheVillan]

Some of the comments about Tielemans in the match thread

It's the match thread though.

and? You seem to get really worked up if anyone comments on the match thread but it go so bad that someone who wasn't watching had to ask what he'd done when a misplaced pass resulted in 5 people calling him shit, it's just fucking silly when it gets to that.

Tielemans was wank.

No he wasn’t. He wasn’t great and clearly needs to improve, but in that second half there were signs of him finding his way back.

Lucky bloke got longer on the pitch than he deserved

[pauliewalnuts]

Some of the comments about Tielemans in the match thread

It's the match thread though.

and? You seem to get really worked up if anyone comments on the match thread but it go so bad that someone who wasn't watching had to ask what he'd done when a misplaced pass resulted in 5 people calling him shit, it's just fucking silly when it gets to that.

Tielemans was wank.

Yes. Especially first half.

Yes, I don't know how anyone can have watched that match and think otherwise.

He is technically very capable, but has a heart the size of a pea and the application of a moody 14 year old.

It's not enough.

[paul_e]

Good win, got stronger and pleased.

I can imagine the match thread, but I'd agree with Paul, Tielemans grew stringer as the game went on and there were some good signs there. I think he needs a run of games to get his eye in fully.

I love the team ethic, I love that they never give in.

Yeah with Tielemans there were two very nearly brilliant passes. Clearly there was still some ropey play in there too, but you could see what he was and could be again. He just needs to get his confidence up.

I reckon if that interview when he was with Belgium hadn't happened everyone would be talking about how tonight was his best performance for us and hoping he can keep it up but now some people have got it in their heads that he's upset about not playing more they're hyper-critical of everything he does wrong.