Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.

[85kota]

Having taken some time to gather my thoughts - I didn't want to go off like a Bloser in a tattoo emporium - I want to say this (I wouldn't have liked to make a fool of myself!): the worst thing we ever could've done is employ a good manager with a track record of doing good things because we will ruin him just like we ruined ourselves many decades ago we don't deserve nice things we always fuck it up always we remind me of Aston Villa oh why are we always so shit when it matters why can we do everything by the book and then still always fail and why can we be the plaything of a Chinese chancer and we don't even get a sugar rush before it all goes tits up our sugar rush was Steve fucking Bruce oh what's the fucking point.

I think we'll be fine in the end. UTV.

Good one Guy

[Beard82]

I think there’s an element of players not being fully aligned yet. But we cannot keep turning insipid displays like this in.

Yep, it's not like we're a bit flat, we've defended horrendously away from home and got some old fashioned shoeings. Getting a bit disappointed that Emery so far seems unable to do anything about it.

100% this is the third time in 4 away games that we look like a joke

[Rodders]

Having taken some time to gather my thoughts - I didn't want to go off like a Bloser in a tattoo emporium - I want to say this (I wouldn't have liked to make a fool of myself!): the worst thing we ever could've done is employ a good manager with a track record of doing good things because we will ruin him just like we ruined ourselves many decades ago we don't deserve nice things we always fuck it up always we remind me of Aston Villa oh why are we always so shit when it matters why can we do everything by the book and then still always fail and why can we be the plaything of a Chinese chancer and we don't even get a sugar rush before it all goes tits up our sugar rush was Steve fucking Bruce oh what's the fucking point.

I think we'll be fine in the end. UTV.

I agree with Paddy

[john2710]

As bad as the performance was, tonight wasn't the exception. It's a pattern to how we've been playing away from home. It starts with a lack of intensity & conceding a goal in the first few minutes.

When Emery arrived we made teams earn every goal, that seems to have gone completely.

[Beard82]

I dont think we can blame the team selection too much - I mean its like the stevenage game - our 2nd team should be able to handle it.  Otherwise there's no point having them.

[AV84]

Feels like last season Emery knew how to get the best out of the players he inherited. Now he's added a few of his own choosing and is trying to fit them in and change the style and maybe it's all a bit too much at once?

We've seen how good we can be when it works but it seems there's a chance every game that we concede first and early, and then everything goes to shit.

I trust it will all come good eventually but it needs to come soon or we're making everything an uphill battle.

I think there’s an element of players not being fully aligned yet. But we cannot keep turning insipid displays like this in.

I don't want to put too much importance on Moreno and Ramsey, but I feel like now they're back its a positive step. We should get some stability with midfield and defence going forward.

I know we need to rotate and use the full squad but a performance like tonight doesn't inspire much confidence in some of the backups. Is it a case of not performing or just not being good enough? Or maybe just needing more game time? Luckily we have plenty of games coming up.

But yeah, the frequency with which we are turning in these kinds of performances this season, is a worry.

[Risso]

If you're struggling without your best defender who's the glue that binds the team together, then maybe don't rotate the defence quite as much. And stop picking Kamara, although I don't know who we play next to Luiz if we drop him.

[Tony Daleys Shorts]

How the chuffin hell  has Tielemens not scored or at least side footed it to Watkins?! Severely underwhelmed by him so far.

[Duncan Shaw]

If you're struggling without your best defender who's the glue that binds the team together, then maybe don't rotate the defence quite as much. And stop picking Kamara, although I don't know who we play next to Luiz if we drop him.

But didn't you say you liked the team a lot pre-match?  Personally I think they just didn't step up and will be in for extra homework tomorrow!

[pauliewalnuts]

I dont think we can blame the team selection too much - I mean its like the stevenage game - our 2nd team should be able to handle it.  Otherwise there's no point having them.

Not too sure about that.

I think there was a degree of over-confidence in playing Chambers at right back, no matter who the opposition, but Legia are not comparable to Stevenage.

[N'ZMAV]

If you're struggling without your best defender who's the glue that binds the team together, then maybe don't rotate the defence quite as much. And stop picking Kamara, although I don't know who we play next to Luiz if we drop him.

McGinn or Donk.

[supertom]

Very lackadaisical. I worry about a two of Kamara and Tielemans. Way too casual and on current form, neither seems to have much urgency. Douglas wasn't good by his standards but was a complete step up from the other two when he came on.

Chambers and Lenglet were both painfully slow and positionally suspect. Maybe lack of game time but really, this is where you should be staking a claim. To be fair though, the entire backline was awful today and Martinez played like [insert any one of the most nightmarish keepers we've had in the past decade].

Duran should have been kept on. Zaniolo looked sharp to start but then couldn't get anything right. Again, too nonchalant. I think he's gonna be like Bailey. Way better at Villa Park.

Defensively away from home, we're a huge concern right now.

I dunno, maybe we can't read too much into a game like this, we were just way off pace throughout. Credit to Warsaw though, they got at us and targeted weak spots pretty well.

The most disappointing thing for me is that players outside the best 11 stepped in and really did not put a shift in. Right now Tielemans has got to do a lot to win me over because he doesn't have the credit in the bank Kamara does from last year. Youri should be completely bossing a game like that. Does he want to start more games? Earn it. For me, I'd be slipping McGinn back beside Douglas and drop the midfield two from today against Chelsea.

[andyh]

Did Watkins actually touch the ball?

The ball touched him and bounced about 9ft off

[olaftab]

Nearly an hour and still locked in😩

[Sexual Ealing]

Having taken some time to gather my thoughts - I didn't want to go off like a Bloser in a tattoo emporium - I want to say this (I wouldn't have liked to make a fool of myself!): the worst thing we ever could've done is employ a good manager with a track record of doing good things because we will ruin him just like we ruined ourselves many decades ago we don't deserve nice things we always fuck it up always we remind me of Aston Villa oh why are we always so shit when it matters why can we do everything by the book and then still always fail and why can we be the plaything of a Chinese chancer and we don't even get a sugar rush before it all goes tits up our sugar rush was Steve fucking Bruce oh what's the fucking point.

I think we'll be fine in the end. UTV.

Good one Guy

You see, this is the stolid stoicism we need in these heathen times. More power to you, previously banned poster!