Legia Warsaw vs Aston Villa post match thread.

[VillaTim]

The summer business looks a mixed bag at the moment , Tielemans has been a big disappointment so far, Torres looks like a nice centre half good on the ball but lacks pace and physicality. Zaniolo looks decent and Diaby does too.

Fucking hell Diaby “decent”?

Eh ? He's been good , work in progress but decent imho .

[kippaxvilla2]

Sorry Tim, I agree with you on a lot of things but Diaby is simply above anything we have had for years on the wing.

[Pat McMahon]

I was a bit concerned at how much time he spent sitting down last night.

I was on the halfway line opposite the dugouts and had exactly that thought

[Pat McMahon]

Relentless support regardless of performance doesn't sit well to me, a bit too fascisty.

I noticed their chanting didn't stop, or even drop a beat, when we scored.

I spent most of the match wishing they'd STFU for a bit.

If i want a pointless, distracting, continual drone in the background while I'm watching the football, I'll let the Mrs be in the room when it's on.

All their players got down on their knees and what appeared to me like they were praying in front of feral choir boys. Bit scary that.

As I said to Aftab and a few others in the War Saw pub last night, it reminded me of Boca Juniors. Relentless support, but utterly detached from events on the pitch. If you were sat outside the stadium you would have no idea of the score. Going to the stadium with a predetermined play list is weird to me. I loved the support, but there has to be a happy medium between resigned silence and somebody putting a cassette on with 45 minutes of a rehearsed set list.

[LeonW]

I think it’s too early to say the recruitment from the summer was a mess but there certainly wasn’t enough of it. Many of the gaps are the same as they were in January.

Emery is cutting a frustrating figure at the minute which is a bit concerning.

It would be concerning if he wasn’t cutting a frustrated figure when we let shite goals in and lose. Would it better to have Strvie G slumped back in indifference?

Emery hasn’t looked frustrated at all when we’ve sticking goals past Everton, Burnley and Palace.

Not at all. But our away performances are concerning; we’ve been shipping goals away from home and his reactions speak for themselves. It’s not just been losing, we’ve collapsed at points. Losing Mings is not the only reason for that. Even beating Palace at home, he said it was more heart than head. Emery is most definitely about control. He’s not going to come away from Palace and go ‘all ok,’ because he won. He may well have been frustrated at what transpired.

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[Hillbilly]

Chambers is definitely not an Emery fullback. Too slow - can't bomb forward, can't chase back.

Maybe we should have brought in someone to challenge Cash then? We had all summer to..

Don't be such a pair of silly billys

Bono-enabler.

Don't be so touchy. I took the chance of a bit of fun having seen the two billys. No malice intended brother. And my username has got nothing to do with U2. Not a fan of theirs especially Bono.

Apologies. I yield to no one in my antipathy to the pompous wee get. I accept it’s a low blow.

[RamboandBruno]

I think it’s too early to say the recruitment from the summer was a mess but there certainly wasn’t enough of it. Many of the gaps are the same as they were in January.

Emery is cutting a frustrating figure at the minute which is a bit concerning.

It would be concerning if he wasn’t cutting a frustrated figure when we let shite goals in and lose. Would it better to have Strvie G slumped back in indifference?

Emery hasn’t looked frustrated at all when we’ve sticking goals past Everton, Burnley and Palace.

Not at all. But our away performances are concerning; we’ve been shipping goals away from home and his reactions speak for themselves. It’s not just been losing, we’ve collapsed at points. Losing Mings is not the only reason for that. Even beating Palace at home, he said it was more heart than head. Emery is most definitely about control. He’s not going to come away from Palace and go ‘all ok,’ because he won. He may well have been frustrated at what transpired.

Don’t disagree with much of this, the Liverpool game in particular was a concern for me as in reality they missed some really good chances and could of scored 6. Against Palace in my opinion i thought we were pretty solid defensively for the majority of the game, but take on board what you say about Emery wanting control, which was something we definitely didn’t have for much of the second half. Saying that we did have it in the first half and didn’t finish three easy chances that would of meant the second half being very different.

Your right in that Mings isn’t the only issue, as important as he is, I think Torres has been very good in most of the games we’ve played. I think its unfortunate they Carlos got injured as it would be good to see him, Torres and Konsa at the back with Moreno bombing on.

I think the other issue is both Kamar and McGinn have been off the pace a bit which means we give up some of that control and Watkins is off form, meaning apart from Everton and Burnley in the league, teams haven’t had to chase the game allowing us to cut them open on the counter.

I think at least some of those issues are resolvable, Moving McGinn to the right, Bringing Ramsey and Moreno in on the left, Watkins shinning one in.

[eamonn]

I appreciate BronteB's posts but he can be a hard taskmaster. He once went on a date with Margot Robbie, thought she could have scrubbed up better and generally wasn't up to much.

She sulked because he didn't take her out to Mullingar.

[brontebilly]

I appreciate BronteB's posts but he can be a hard taskmaster. He once went on a date with Margot Robbie, thought she could have scrubbed up better and generally wasn't up to much.

How many marks did she get out of ten?

Brontë said he would give her 1 out of 10

Who wouldn't give her 1?

[tomd2103]

I think it’s too early to say the recruitment from the summer was a mess but there certainly wasn’t enough of it. Many of the gaps are the same as they were in January.

Emery is cutting a frustrating figure at the minute which is a bit concerning.

It would be concerning if he wasn’t cutting a frustrated figure when we let shite goals in and lose. Would it better to have Strvie G slumped back in indifference?

Emery hasn’t looked frustrated at all when we’ve sticking goals past Everton, Burnley and Palace.

Not at all. But our away performances are concerning; we’ve been shipping goals away from home and his reactions speak for themselves. It’s not just been losing, we’ve collapsed at points. Losing Mings is not the only reason for that. Even beating Palace at home, he said it was more heart than head. Emery is most definitely about control. He’s not going to come away from Palace and go ‘all ok,’ because he won. He may well have been frustrated at what transpired.

Don’t disagree with much of this, the Liverpool game in particular was a concern for me as in reality they missed some really good chances and could of scored 6. Against Palace in my opinion i thought we were pretty solid defensively for the majority of the game, but take on board what you say about Emery wanting control, which was something we definitely didn’t have for much of the second half. Saying that we did have it in the first half and didn’t finish three easy chances that would of meant the second half being very different.

Your right in that Mings isn’t the only issue, as important as he is, I think Torres has been very good in most of the games we’ve played. I think its unfortunate they Carlos got injured as it would be good to see him, Torres and Konsa at the back with Moreno bombing on.

I think the other issue is both Kamar and McGinn have been off the pace a bit which means we give up some of that control and Watkins is off form, meaning apart from Everton and Burnley in the league, teams haven’t had to chase the game allowing us to cut them open on the counter.

I think at least some of those issues are resolvable, Moving McGinn to the right, Bringing Ramsey and Moreno in on the left, Watkins shinning one in.

I think that Ramsey coming back will give us better balance.  We looked better when he came on in the week and Moreno coming back will hopefully give us more of an attacking threat on the left. 

Whereas last season we looked like a solid unit, we just look like a group of individuals at the moment and seem to be lacking a bit of leadership.

One real positive for me over the past few weeks though is that Duran is starting to look like a viable option up front. 

[The Edge]

Chambers is definitely not an Emery fullback. Too slow - can't bomb forward, can't chase back.

Maybe we should have brought in someone to challenge Cash then? We had all summer to..

Don't be such a pair of silly billys

Bono-enabler.

Don't be so touchy. I took the chance of a bit of fun having seen the two billys. No malice intended brother. And my username has got nothing to do with U2. Not a fan of theirs especially Bono.

Apologies. I yield to no one in my antipathy to the pompous wee get. I accept it’s a low blow.

Fair enough mate 👌