Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match

[passport1]

When did ‘parking the bus’ become ‘a low block’ ?
Is it about the same time xg became a thing ?

When this happened:

https://www.sportbible.com/football/foul-play-graeme-souness-criticised-after-rudely-interrupting-pundit-alex-scott-20190203

Since then people have started using it a lot. Soundness was right BTW. Another one is double pivot. You mean two man midfield. 'The press' - that's called closing down. Terminology has definitely become a bit pompous over the past few years.

Poor old Graham who regularly finds himself stuck in a studio with some 'lady footballer' nonentity. Might as well have some guy who played in the Southern League offering his opinion.

[Brend'Watkins]

Just watched MOTD. All 3 pundits claim the pen was 'tough' on Palace. Whatever.

Did they? Diddums!

The ref should be still analysing it now, far too hasty with his decision once going to the camera. And anyway, it’s the law if you go to the camera the decision should be overruled.

[Smirker]

'The Press' is a term borrowed from basketball.

Now that I know it is an Americanism is bothers me more.

[Small Rodent]

When did ‘parking the bus’ become ‘a low block’ ?
Is it about the same time xg became a thing ?

When this happened:

https://www.sportbible.com/football/foul-play-graeme-souness-criticised-after-rudely-interrupting-pundit-alex-scott-20190203

Since then people have started using it a lot. Soundness was right BTW. Another one is double pivot. You mean two man midfield. 'The press' - that's called closing down. Terminology has definitely become a bit pompous over the past few years.

Poor old Graham who regularly finds himself stuck in a studio with some 'lady footballer' nonentity. Might as well have some guy who played in the Southern League offering his opinion.

The world has moved on. Deal with it.

[kippaxvilla2]

Well I had never heard of it before so I thought it was just some trendy saying.  But it doesn’t even describe what it actually is.  A low block is either a three storey dwelling or a driveway paving arrangement.

[VILLA MOLE]

Seen a few people making a big deal about Kamara not celebrating the goals .

[pauliewalnuts]

Seen a few people making a big deal about Kamara not celebrating the goals .

To be fair, he did look like someone had pissed in his chips.

[pablo_picasso]

Well I had never heard of it before so I thought it was just some trendy saying.  But it doesn’t even describe what it actually is.  A low block is either a three storey dwelling or a driveway paving arrangement.

It was something I noticed when Emma Hayes was commentating, she kept saying "defending low" & using the word "transition" over & over.

Which would suggest that female coaches use some differing terminology than males.

Not sure why terms like "defending deep" needs to be changed, but "transition" is a good way of describing teams transferring possession.

Im not a fan of Emma Hayes. Granted she is successful, but she just reminds me of Lee Hendrie when talking.

I like Alex Scott. Insightful.

[baddowvillans]

Just watched MOTD. All 3 pundits claim the pen was 'tough' on Palace. Whatever.

If that pen had been awarded against Villa I'd be yelling my head off. He clearly gets the ball well before his leg collides with Olly

I disagree that he "clearly" gets the ball but let's assume you're right, the ball doesn't move of its existing trajectory before he takes Watkins out and only then makes a more definite contact with the ball.  Its a penalty anytime anywhere.

[paul_e]

Just watched MOTD. All 3 pundits claim the pen was 'tough' on Palace. Whatever.

If that pen had been awarded against Villa I'd be yelling my head off. He clearly gets the ball well before his leg collides with Olly

I disagree that he "clearly" gets the ball but let's assume you're right, the ball doesn't move of its existing trajectory before he takes Watkins out and only then makes a more definite contact with the ball.  Its a penalty anytime anywhere.

Cxorrect, the sport really needs to get rid of the myth that the tip of a stud toucvhing the ball negates any and all foul play.

[Lsvilla]

Just watched MOTD. All 3 pundits claim the pen was 'tough' on Palace. Whatever.

If that pen had been awarded against Villa I'd be yelling my head off. He clearly gets the ball well before his leg collides with Olly

I disagree that he "clearly" gets the ball but let's assume you're right, the ball doesn't move of its existing trajectory before he takes Watkins out and only then makes a more definite contact with the ball.  Its a penalty anytime anywhere.

Cxorrect, the sport really needs to get rid of the myth that the tip of a stud toucvhing the ball negates any and all foul play.

Totally agree. Unusual for the ref to stick with his decision when he goes to the screen but he had a much better view of the whole picture than the cameras offered. He was right to stand his ground and effectively say "I know what I saw".

[kippaxvilla2]

I don’t even know why they’re questioning it.  It’s an obvious penalty. Does he even touch the ball first time around?  I didn’t know you could foul then get the ball how does that work?

[Somniloquism]

I don’t even know why they’re questioning it.  It’s an obvious penalty. Does he even touch the ball first time around?  I didn’t know you could foul then get the ball how does that work?

The close up linked earlier on some Palace fan posted seems to show a graze. Not enough to divert the ball from any direction and if there was no contact with Watkins, he was still through. The second touch was the decisive one and if he had made that first, it wouldn't have been a pen. However by then he had already contacted Watkins. Essentially it was a probably half inch from being a perfect tackle, but as we know with VAR, that distance is enough to chalk off a goal.

[paul_e]

They just need to clarify that a tackle is only complete if you win the ball (not touch it), where winning the ball means intentionally and clearly changing the direction or momentum of the ball to take it out of the control of the opponent. That way a toe on the ball before you clatter into the man is correctly given as a foul because you haven't won it and therefore the tackle isn't complete before you commit the foul.

Even with that they also need a rule that winning the ball is irrelevant if you endanger the opponent, to deal with c*nts like Mee who are happy to try to injure someone with their follow-through.

[Chap]

See Garth Crooks is also siding with MOTD chums, even if he did put Dougie in his team of the week.