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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #255 on: September 17, 2023, 10:31:41 AM »
I think Torres just needs to learn when to close space better. It was poor to get turned by Mateta yesterday, but also what the hell happened in the middle? Edouard should never have had so much space.

Konsa took a big gamble, it seemed to me, to play offside at nearly the half way line expecting Mateta to play that ball first time. When he rolled Torres and ran with it then Konsa was in no man's land. Both holding midfielders nowhere it must be said, Kamara doing a lot of complaining afterwards instead of bursting a gut to into position to start with and cover back. Ridiculous goal to concede really.

Still, good win eh Bronte?

You do realise he is relating back to a question on why they had a stupid amount of space for their goal. And they are valid complaints even though we came back right at the end.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #256 on: September 17, 2023, 10:34:09 AM »
I think Torres just needs to learn when to close space better. It was poor to get turned by Mateta yesterday, but also what the hell happened in the middle? Edouard should never have had so much space.

Konsa took a big gamble, it seemed to me, to play offside at nearly the half way line expecting Mateta to play that ball first time. When he rolled Torres and ran with it then Konsa was in no man's land. Both holding midfielders nowhere it must be said, Kamara doing a lot of complaining afterwards instead of bursting a gut to into position to start with and cover back. Ridiculous goal to concede really.

Yea agree with this. I thought Konsa was largely excellent most of the game but caught out here. And your right about Kamara, it must be his job to get back to cover. Torres obviously gets turned too easily by Mateta, but that alone shouldn’t of led to the goal and I think the focus on Torres here blurs an analysis of what was otherwise a really good performance

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #257 on: September 17, 2023, 10:35:50 AM »
Just watched MOTD. All 3 pundits claim the pen was 'tough' on Palace. Whatever.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #258 on: September 17, 2023, 10:36:03 AM »
I think Torres just needs to learn when to close space better. It was poor to get turned by Mateta yesterday, but also what the hell happened in the middle? Edouard should never have had so much space.

Agreed but I like to think that without the slip, EMI would have saved the shot.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #259 on: September 17, 2023, 10:38:21 AM »
Seems to me that Kamara where operating as a RB some of the game when we where pressing with Cash acting as a RW. I would like to try Kamara at a RB as such an Dendoncker in as DM alongside Luiz and shift Dendoncker with Tielemans when we need to go offensive to get a goal. Cash on the bench then. I think a did read once that Kamara can play RB around the time he arrived here.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #260 on: September 17, 2023, 10:41:09 AM »
I think Torres just needs to learn when to close space better. It was poor to get turned by Mateta yesterday, but also what the hell happened in the middle? Edouard should never have had so much space.

Konsa took a big gamble, it seemed to me, to play offside at nearly the half way line expecting Mateta to play that ball first time. When he rolled Torres and ran with it then Konsa was in no man's land. Both holding midfielders nowhere it must be said, Kamara doing a lot of complaining afterwards instead of bursting a gut to into position to start with and cover back. Ridiculous goal to concede really.

Still, good win eh Bronte?

You do realise he is relating back to a question on why they had a stupid amount of space for their goal. And they are valid complaints even though we came back right at the end.

Well, yes but he's normally quick to criticise when we lose so a bit of praise wouldn't have gone amiss.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #261 on: September 17, 2023, 10:43:40 AM »
While sitting in the DE yesterday at around the 85 minute mark watching a few people start to wander out and head home, I thought that this isn't like the old days.
We're not aimlessly pumping the ball into the box. We're not clueless and there is a patience about what were doing that at least gives us a chance. There are at least 10 minutes ontop of the 90 left.
Why are you leaving?

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #262 on: September 17, 2023, 10:45:10 AM »
A great ball in by Digne for Duran’s goal. Whoscored have him with the second highest score out of 10 for us after Luiz.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #263 on: September 17, 2023, 10:45:48 AM »
I’ll take the pen every day of the week, but would have hated it if that one was given against us

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #264 on: September 17, 2023, 10:47:45 AM »
I hate any penalty being given against us. But it was a definite pen. I also thought the handball was rightly not given.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #265 on: September 17, 2023, 10:48:49 AM »
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Just watched MOTD. All 3 pundits claim the pen was 'tough' on Palace. Whatever.
Yes, reading the summary on Skysports you can get the same impression (that it was "though" on Palace). What is it with English press not want to shed a positive light on Villa? You living over there might be in better position to understand som of that - might be down to us being the biggest club before the PL area and that PL wanted a new beginning. In fact I did watch a youtube clip from at villa  park think it was 78 between villa and manu and commentators said villa and manu was the two most popular clubs in England (78 that is).

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #266 on: September 17, 2023, 10:56:05 AM »
I think Torres just needs to learn when to close space better. It was poor to get turned by Mateta yesterday, but also what the hell happened in the middle? Edouard should never have had so much space.
Mateta was a physical presence yesterday, and Torres got too close to him. Hopefully he's learning before - as you hint - he comes up against really good opposition.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #267 on: September 17, 2023, 10:57:34 AM »
While sitting in the DE yesterday at around the 85 minute mark watching a few people start to wander out and head home, I thought that this isn't like the old days.
We're not aimlessly pumping the ball into the box. We're not clueless and there is a patience about what were doing that at least gives us a chance. There are at least 10 minutes ontop of the 90 left.
Why are you leaving?

I was in Upper Trinity, and had a good view of DE. There were a lot of empty seats throughout the game, but the Lower Doug looked about half empty just after Duran scored. There were a lot of empty seats around me in A3 throughout the game.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #268 on: September 17, 2023, 11:00:09 AM »
While sitting in the DE yesterday at around the 85 minute mark watching a few people start to wander out and head home, I thought that this isn't like the old days.
We're not aimlessly pumping the ball into the box. We're not clueless and there is a patience about what were doing that at least gives us a chance. There are at least 10 minutes ontop of the 90 left.
Why are you leaving?
Some of the comments in L7...lump the ball forward etc...back to the RDM and Bruce era...we know we had plenty of time with the stoppages..people need to try and trust the process...hopefully days like yesterday grow the faith!

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Re: Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match
« Reply #269 on: September 17, 2023, 11:00:24 AM »
I hate any penalty being given against us. But it was a definite pen. I also thought the handball was rightly not given.
I thought the previous one - where Watkins was sandwiched by two defenders (and for which the ref gave a freekick against our man) - was a strong call for a pen. I think the ref was swayed by the fact that one of the defenders went down clutching his head.

 


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