Aston Villa vs Crystal Palace Post-Match

[Risso]

Yep it was definite penalty. He doesn't touch the ball at all in the first phase when he takes Watkins down. He then does after he's fouled the player, but so what? As an example, if you pull a player's shirt back in the box, it doesn't stop it being a penalty if you then kick the ball.

The Palace assistant manager saying "the fact that it took five minutes tells you all you need to know." Well actually, no it doesn't. Firstly, it was a nailed on penalty, correctly given by the referee. Secondly, the fact that the VAR review took five minutes meant it wasn't a clear and obvious error, so that doesn't back up his view at all.

[Somniloquism]

I think the Palace coach stating "look how long it took, obviously it wasn't a penalty". Did he forget that the initial give was a Penalty and the long time was trying to disprove it.

[9fingers]

It was clear and obvious they were looking for a get out clause.

[Somniloquism]

Yep it was definite penalty. He doesn't touch the ball at all in the first phase when he takes Watkins down. He then does after he's fouled the player, but so what? As an example, if you pull a player's shirt back in the box, it doesn't stop it being a penalty if you then kick the ball.

The Palace assistant manager saying "the fact that it took five minutes tells you all you need to know." Well actually, no it doesn't. Firstly, it was a nailed on penalty, correctly given by the referee. Secondly, the fact that the VAR review took five minutes meant it wasn't a clear and obvious error, so that doesn't back up his view at all.

Also the "first" touch they were trying to claim meant nothing. It didn't divert the ball away from the attacker so if he didn't then bring him down Watkins could have still been in.

[maidstonevillain]

Watched the penalty review again. What the fuck were they saying to the ref from VAR? It was a clear penalty, yet it seems they did everything possible to create doubt in the refs mind.

I really don't think it was a clear pen, if he gets a touch initially before he takes Watkins out then it isn't. I just don't think he quite gets that touch which is ultimately what he decided as well.

It took an eternity and even included a lengthy monitor review. It had to be a clear mistake to overturn and it wasn’t even a mistake.

It was a penalty in my humble opinion. It's a common misconception that getting a touch on the ball negates the penalty. It doesn't because he clearly bought down Ollie who could still have got to the ball and possibly scored.

That's my view. Even after the first slight touch, Watkins still had control of the ball (insofar as Watkins ever has control of the ball), before he was brought down.

[olaftab]

The gang at Stockley Park are bunch of nitwits, total attention seekers getting involved unnecessarily. Darren England made the right decision in real time and took as long as necessary to convince the screen idiots that they were wrong for questioning it. 

[LeonW]

I can’t believe there is even a debate about this; it’s a clear penalty. VAR wrongly being applied against it’s own rules yet again.

[AV84]

Bit early in the season to be looking at "top scorers" but at the moment we have 5 players tied on 2 goals each. Diaby and Luiz, and then Bailey, who everyone wanted shipped to Saudi, right back Cash, and competition winner Durán who has played about 40 minutes.

I honestly don't care where the goals come from, but it's been a very interesting spread so far.

[Small Rodent]

The ref was absolutely awful and I hope those Palace 'ultras' dressed in black are still only half way home to their sh it hole that always feels three junctions past Calais.

Why Calais?

[Somniloquism]

Bit early in the season to be looking at "top scorers" but at the moment we have 5 players tied on 2 goals each. Diaby and Luiz, and then Bailey, who everyone wanted shipped to Saudi, right back Cash, and competition winner Durán who has played about 40 minutes.

I honestly don't care where the goals come from, but it's been a very interesting spread so far.

Although it must be one of the fastest we have got into double figures scored in recent times. (Although a quick google search shows 20/21 but we had just put 7 passed plop).

[kippaxvilla2]

That foul for the penalty was almost the same as the van dijk one that they all agreed was absolutely correct.  What on earth were they jabbering on about tonight?!

[Somniloquism]

The ref was absolutely awful and I hope those Palace 'ultras' dressed in black are still only half way home to their sh it hole that always feels three junctions past Calais.

Why Calais?

I think most away fans feel Palace is stupidly long to get to considering it is in London AND not on the South coast like some other teams. So I feel Eddie was stating further distance then Brighton, hence 3 junctions on from Calais.

[AV84]

Bit early in the season to be looking at "top scorers" but at the moment we have 5 players tied on 2 goals each. Diaby and Luiz, and then Bailey, who everyone wanted shipped to Saudi, right back Cash, and competition winner Durán who has played about 40 minutes.

I honestly don't care where the goals come from, but it's been a very interesting spread so far.

Although it must be one of the fastest we have got into double figures scored in recent times. (Although a quick google search shows 20/21 but we had just put 7 passed plop).

Last season we had, I think, 12 different goal scorers across the entire season in the league. So far this season we've already had 6 in only a handful of games.

[Small Rodent]

The ref was absolutely awful and I hope those Palace 'ultras' dressed in black are still only half way home to their sh it hole that always feels three junctions past Calais.

Why Calais?

I think most away fans feel Palace is stupidly long to get to considering it is in London AND not on the South coast like some other teams. So I feel Eddie was stating further distance then Brighton, hence 3 junctions on from Calais.

It’s as piss easy to get to as Villa Park is to get to in the reverse fixture.

[Somniloquism]

The ref was absolutely awful and I hope those Palace 'ultras' dressed in black are still only half way home to their sh it hole that always feels three junctions past Calais.

Why Calais?

I think most away fans feel Palace is stupidly long to get to considering it is in London AND not on the South coast like some other teams. So I feel Eddie was stating further distance then Brighton, hence 3 junctions on from Calais.

It’s as piss easy to get to as Villa Park is to get to in the reverse fixture.

I'm sure I have read Dave W lamenting the trip in the past, and not just because Selhurst is a bit of a bogey ground over the years.