Quote from: supertom on September 16, 2023, 06:07:27 PMSide note, probably said many times but games going on this long is ridiculous. Obviously, they just needed enough for us to spank in the third...obviously. But that was enough. VAR should never take as long as it has at times this season. Clear and obvious should make these decisions relatively simple. If they can't be done within a couple of minutes either it's not clear and obvious or (like today) the officials don't have a clear understanding of the laws. Yep. 9 minutes of injury time turned into 16 and a half minutes injury time without there being a bad injury. More than an entire half of extra time. They really need to enforce that it needs to be clear and obvious and not re-refereeing the game, like they said they wouldn't do.
Side note, probably said many times but games going on this long is ridiculous. Obviously, they just needed enough for us to spank in the third...obviously. But that was enough. VAR should never take as long as it has at times this season. Clear and obvious should make these decisions relatively simple. If they can't be done within a couple of minutes either it's not clear and obvious or (like today) the officials don't have a clear understanding of the laws.
Quote from: Risso on September 16, 2023, 06:14:35 PMAgreed. I'd much rather read the opinions of people concerning the game in the match and post match threads (whether positive, negative or indifferent), than posters criticising others for daring to say that we possibly weren't playing that well. There's no badges given out for being Bestest Fan of the Month that I'm aware of.Sorry but that's utter bullshit. You regularly have a go at people who post in those threads where it doesn't match what you say. Normally someone saying something positive when you've decided everything is shit, you've done it to me many times over the last few years.
Agreed. I'd much rather read the opinions of people concerning the game in the match and post match threads (whether positive, negative or indifferent), than posters criticising others for daring to say that we possibly weren't playing that well. There's no badges given out for being Bestest Fan of the Month that I'm aware of.
Let's hope the incoming injury time fucks Palace.
Quote from: OCD on September 16, 2023, 06:17:50 PMQuote from: supertom on September 16, 2023, 06:07:27 PMSide note, probably said many times but games going on this long is ridiculous. Obviously, they just needed enough for us to spank in the third...obviously. But that was enough. VAR should never take as long as it has at times this season. Clear and obvious should make these decisions relatively simple. If they can't be done within a couple of minutes either it's not clear and obvious or (like today) the officials don't have a clear understanding of the laws. Yep. 9 minutes of injury time turned into 16 and a half minutes injury time without there being a bad injury. More than an entire half of extra time. They really need to enforce that it needs to be clear and obvious and not re-refereeing the game, like they said they wouldn't do. to be fair their centre half was down for a couple of minutes.
Quote from: TonyD on September 16, 2023, 05:14:01 PMWhat a strange game. Should have been out of sight by half time. Looked dead and buried in the second half. Then somehow bounced back. Palace are shite. I think Kamara needs benching. Pau can pass but not much of a defender. Zani could be a superstar. And Bailey did ok. Cough. Doesn't even rhyme.
What a strange game. Should have been out of sight by half time. Looked dead and buried in the second half. Then somehow bounced back. Palace are shite. I think Kamara needs benching. Pau can pass but not much of a defender. Zani could be a superstar. And Bailey did ok. Cough.
Quote from: paul_e on September 16, 2023, 06:17:48 PMQuote from: Risso on September 16, 2023, 06:14:35 PMAgreed. I'd much rather read the opinions of people concerning the game in the match and post match threads (whether positive, negative or indifferent), than posters criticising others for daring to say that we possibly weren't playing that well. There's no badges given out for being Bestest Fan of the Month that I'm aware of.Sorry but that's utter bullshit. You regularly have a go at people who post in those threads where it doesn't match what you say. Normally someone saying something positive when you've decided everything is shit, you've done it to me many times over the last few years.Disagreeing with somebody's view isn't the same as saying that they don't have the right to say it.
Woosh, just coming down from that mad adrenaline rush. Frustration to elation and all that. Just some minor observations, Dougie was class all game, Kamara played well too but right call to take him off as no need for a 6 with their tactics of sitting deep. Dougs composure for the penalty!! McGinn struggled. Cash struggled in the more advanced position, he just couldn’t beat their full back, who played well. Digne slowed the game down too much and it will be good to get Moreno back in. I don’t understand the criticism of Torres by a couple of posters. He got caught for pace for their goal, but someone else (can’t remember who) had lost it to put him in a difficult position. Even then Emi gets their first if he hadn’t slipped. Torres distribution was first class and his defending was generally good. Konsa for me, along with Dougie, MoM, just superb all game. Up front Diaby did well, Watkins has great movement and scores if he’s not brought down, lovely chip that was unfortunate not to go in. He’s low on confidence and once he gets one, he will go on a run. Great finish by Duran, complete wild card. Zaniolo did well if a little greedy sometimes, Bailey did really well when he came on. Tielemans struggled at first, but was instrumental in the 2nd and 3rd with great through balls. Someone else pointed out the pre Emery Villa lose that 0-1 or 0-2, but Emery and the players find a way. Finally, Eze is a lovely player for them.
Anyway, thank me later.Quote from: Risso on September 16, 2023, 04:50:51 PMLet's hope the incoming injury time fucks Palace.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on September 16, 2023, 05:37:19 PMQuote from: edgysatsuma89 on September 16, 2023, 05:36:00 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 16, 2023, 05:29:07 PMWatched the penalty review again. What the fuck were they saying to the ref from VAR? It was a clear penalty, yet it seems they did everything possible to create doubt in the refs mind.I really don't think it was a clear pen, if he gets a touch initially before he takes Watkins out then it isn't. I just don't think he quite gets that touch which is ultimately what he decided as well.It took an eternity and even included a lengthy monitor review. It had to be a clear mistake to overturn and it wasn’t even a mistake.It was a penalty in my humble opinion. It's a common misconception that getting a touch on the ball negates the penalty. It doesn't because he clearly bought down Ollie who could still have got to the ball and possibly scored.
Quote from: edgysatsuma89 on September 16, 2023, 05:36:00 PMQuote from: Toronto Villa on September 16, 2023, 05:29:07 PMWatched the penalty review again. What the fuck were they saying to the ref from VAR? It was a clear penalty, yet it seems they did everything possible to create doubt in the refs mind.I really don't think it was a clear pen, if he gets a touch initially before he takes Watkins out then it isn't. I just don't think he quite gets that touch which is ultimately what he decided as well.It took an eternity and even included a lengthy monitor review. It had to be a clear mistake to overturn and it wasn’t even a mistake.
Quote from: Toronto Villa on September 16, 2023, 05:29:07 PMWatched the penalty review again. What the fuck were they saying to the ref from VAR? It was a clear penalty, yet it seems they did everything possible to create doubt in the refs mind.I really don't think it was a clear pen, if he gets a touch initially before he takes Watkins out then it isn't. I just don't think he quite gets that touch which is ultimately what he decided as well.
Watched the penalty review again. What the fuck were they saying to the ref from VAR? It was a clear penalty, yet it seems they did everything possible to create doubt in the refs mind.