Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 09:24:26 PMQuote from: ASHTONVILLA on September 07, 2023, 09:21:30 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 09:20:22 PMQuote from: 85kota on September 07, 2023, 09:15:21 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 08:37:54 PMBrighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup. I certainly didn't imagine them getting relegated when they had to reign in spending.After they'd won more than we have in over forty years. Swap places now?Which of our signings this summer would you not have signed due to the lack of revenue from the increases? Torres, Diaby or Teilemans? In reality that is the kind of choice that would have to be made until revenues from other areas are improved - which they seem quite keen on goven the number of off field appointments recently.EditI should add that I am equally unreasonable. I want unlimited spending, no FFP and an owner that will spunk billions that made his/her money in a nice way and is not an oil state. l also would never ever put 100s of millions of my own cash in. I just don't think thats available right now.
Quote from: ASHTONVILLA on September 07, 2023, 09:21:30 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 09:20:22 PMQuote from: 85kota on September 07, 2023, 09:15:21 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 08:37:54 PMBrighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup. I certainly didn't imagine them getting relegated when they had to reign in spending.After they'd won more than we have in over forty years.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 09:20:22 PMQuote from: 85kota on September 07, 2023, 09:15:21 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 08:37:54 PMBrighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup. I certainly didn't imagine them getting relegated when they had to reign in spending.
Quote from: 85kota on September 07, 2023, 09:15:21 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 08:37:54 PMBrighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.We've achieved nothing and I must have imagined Leicester winning the league and the FA Cup.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 08:37:54 PMBrighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.To be fair Brighton have achieved nothing and Leicester just got relegated so not sure your point stands.
Brighton haven't had to do it. Leicester didn't. We seem to be paying top prices for tickets while the commercial side is flatlining.
Ashton, I haven’t got £1,000 never mind £100 million. However, if I had our owners amount of wealth, £100 million would be loose change and, if they were to sell the club to new buyers, I’ve no doubt they would recoup more than they’ve put in. Please don’t feel sorry for them, feel sorry for the ordinary fan who can no longer afford to attend Villa matches. At the moment, I can just about afford my season ticket but, for how much longer depends on any future whopping increases.
Quote from: Skerra on September 07, 2023, 09:58:07 PMAshton, I haven’t got £1,000 never mind £100 million. However, if I had our owners amount of wealth, £100 million would be loose change and, if they were to sell the club to new buyers, I’ve no doubt they would recoup more than they’ve put in. Please don’t feel sorry for them, feel sorry for the ordinary fan who can no longer afford to attend Villa matches. At the moment, I can just about afford my season ticket but, for how much longer depends on any future whopping increases. This, many times over. I don't know if it's reflected amongst real people, or whether I spend too.much time on Twitter, but the sight of Villa supporters saying that if you can't afford a ticket there's plenty who can has saddened me. I've said it before and I still believe it - I wouldn't want success if it meant selling our soul.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on September 07, 2023, 10:09:16 PMQuote from: Skerra on September 07, 2023, 09:58:07 PMAshton, I haven’t got £1,000 never mind £100 million. However, if I had our owners amount of wealth, £100 million would be loose change and, if they were to sell the club to new buyers, I’ve no doubt they would recoup more than they’ve put in. Please don’t feel sorry for them, feel sorry for the ordinary fan who can no longer afford to attend Villa matches. At the moment, I can just about afford my season ticket but, for how much longer depends on any future whopping increases. This, many times over. I don't know if it's reflected amongst real people, or whether I spend too.much time on Twitter, but the sight of Villa supporters saying that if you can't afford a ticket there's plenty who can has saddened me. I've said it before and I still believe it - I wouldn't want success if it meant selling our soul.But you would swap for Leicester's trophies, who fleeced their fans for 31% more.
I've a very vague memory of a H&V article post the Inter defeat, so 1991 or 1992, arguing that we would all be happy to see the best players in the world in front of us, even if it meant paying a lot more. We've got that now haven't we?Cant mind author mind.
When we talk about the owners putting in hundreds of millions, they have, but they haven’t done it out of an altruistic need to entertain us They’ve done it because they think they can make the club worth considerably more than they paid for us. They bought us as a distressed asset for what 60m?The club is worth at least ten times that now. They’ve invested in terms of having a sensible corporate structure, having a decent squad, all of these things and they are great owners. They saved the club. But let’s not forget, they’re not doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. They’re investing to create significant value further down the line. Not because they love the club.
Yep, whilst it's true the owners 'rescued' us. They did so because they saw a distressed asset that, with investment, would quickly become worth way more than they paid for it. They were right. They clearly know what they're doing.But let's not descend into hero-worshipping a couple of billionaires. They're here to use us to make money. I know that's how it's supposed to work, and we'll have some fun along the way (hopefully). But let's never confuse them for benevolent benefactors. They're not doing us a favour by being here.