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Author Topic: Value of our players - hypothetical  (Read 8562 times)

Offline Risso

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2023, 04:03:54 PM »
No, £125m for Luiz, minimum. He's the best player in the Premier League, never mind best midfielder.

Offline LeeB

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2023, 04:08:01 PM »
Yeah Luiz is Rice money to get a polite decline, rather than a 'fuck right off'.

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2023, 04:30:55 PM »
I hoped this thread had died of natural causes.

Rude! 😤

Offline Monty

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2023, 04:35:29 PM »
Luiz is approaching the topmost of top levels. The two best no. 4 midfielders in the league (no NO I will NOT concede this) are Rice and Rodri; the best no. 8s (fine, that's fine) are De Bruyne (I guess he's not a 10?) and Szoboszlai; Doug is literally the best in-between midfield player in the league, the best shuttler and shuffler, a ball-retention machine, a press monster, and a gap-spotter rapidly approaching Sidesque levels. There's none quite like him, and he's virtually irreplaceable in our system.

Offline Smithy

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #64 on: October 23, 2023, 04:42:08 PM »
No, £125m for Luiz, minimum. He's the best player in the Premier League, never mind best midfielder.

If someone wanted him, and we didn't want him to go, then I think it would take a British transfer record on current form.  Certainly more than Rice.  Obviously it's impossible for him to continue at his current ridiculous rate of goal-scoring, but his all-round game is so good right now that if it continues he'll easily be a Brazil starter and recognised as a £100m+ player in the next 12 months.

Enzo Fernandes went for £105m simply for being the third best midfielder in the Argentina team.  I literally wouldn't swap Dougie for anyone in the premier league right now.  There are better defensive midfielders, there are better pivots, and there are better attacking midfielders, but I don't believe there is one player who can do all three at his level.

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2023, 05:09:58 PM »
I had thought he was £100+m but there is only so much aggressive comments I can take because expected people to shoot that down
Certainly better than Rice and it annoyed me how Guimarães and Paquetá get more plaudits.
 
I said  moons ago Dougie was bordering on world class .
I have hard evidence on such foresight.

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2023, 05:12:22 PM »
I had thought he was £100+m but there is only so much aggressive comments I can take because expected people to shoot that down
Certainly better than Rice and it annoyed me how Guimarães and Paquetá get more plaudits.
 
I said  moons ago Dougie was bordering on world class .
I have hard evidence on such foresight.

 8)




Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2023, 05:23:47 PM »
I posted on Douglas Thread when I said on 1st Jan he was on the verge of being world class.

Offline Monty

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2023, 05:27:45 PM »
I posted on Douglas Thread when I said on 1st Jan he was on the verge of being world class.


Mate, we believe you. Others thought he was great too. Some others disagreed - oh well, they were right about other things! Litigating endlessly who got what right is not, in my opinion, the point of forums like this.

Offline Risso

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2023, 05:35:02 PM »
Jesus, give it a rest.

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2023, 05:36:50 PM »
I posted on Douglas Thread when I said on 1st Jan he was on the verge of being world class.


On the 17th August 2019 I posted that Dougie would be one of the best midfielders in the premier league after his "worldie" against Bournemouth. 

My foresight makes your foresight look like 20:20 hindsight.

Offline Monty

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2023, 05:38:45 PM »
Ok. Sorry. Just some people often try and poke fun about things I say or occasionally get wrong but never credit my foresight.
And certainly many have backed Douglas because he was the player of last season

The sole credit isn't just for me and my observations of course many can share seeing how good he has become.

Please take this as the friendly advice it is intended as - they're poking fun of your tendency to bring it up in exactly this manner. Sometimes you've had good insights, and that's grand! But the point is that so do other people, and that you also get things wrong and so do others, and that it's best not to go on about either.

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #72 on: October 23, 2023, 05:49:36 PM »
I had thought he was £100+m but there is only so much aggressive comments I can take because expected people to shoot that down
Certainly better than Rice and it annoyed me how Guimarães and Paquetá get more plaudits.
 
I said  moons ago Dougie was bordering on world class .
I have hard evidence on such foresight.

 8)




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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #73 on: October 23, 2023, 06:03:10 PM »
Luiz is approaching the topmost of top levels. The two best no. 4 midfielders in the league (no NO I will NOT concede this) are Rice and Rodri; the best no. 8s (fine, that's fine) are De Bruyne (I guess he's not a 10?) and Szoboszlai; Doug is literally the best in-between midfield player in the league, the best shuttler and shuffler, a ball-retention machine, a press monster, and a gap-spotter rapidly approaching Sidesque levels. There's none quite like him, and he's virtually irreplaceable in our system.
I think you've summarised things well there.

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Re: Value of our players - hypothetical
« Reply #74 on: October 24, 2023, 02:09:18 PM »
Jesus, give it a rest.
Ok sure.
was just about to give further hard evidence of foresight after I explained how Jon Duran would not be loaned out and was bought to be part of the first team this season. I said that ore season when some said he's going. Now again, there seem to be some suggestions that he's leaving Villa. Which are inaccurate.If it's not helpful to explain his current situation, then I won't, but he's not leaving Villa.

You don't need to prove anything. What irks people is that you consistently try to, and then claim foresight and insight etc. It doesn't matter, we're all right and wrong about stuff but don't need to claim that we're the best at it. If you're right, be happy that you're right, don't try and prove it and show everyone, because it doesn't really matter and nobody cares.

We all make our minds up about people based on what they post. Some make good points, or points that we agree with, others don't. People are smart enough on here (generally!) that they can understand when people make good points, when they disagree with someone, and when it's just rubbish.

Relax, post stuff, have an opinion, but you don't have to justify your existence and view by claiming to be better than anyone, because that becomes annoying and irritating.

Plus you'll realise soon enough that I am the all-seeing eye with the highest intelligence, better analysing skills and all round most decent chap on here.


 


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