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Author Topic: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread  (Read 33534 times)

Offline LeeB

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #360 on: August 14, 2023, 10:58:49 AM »
I think Digne is shite, and have done since he arrived.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #361 on: August 14, 2023, 10:59:38 AM »
It was weird watching Newcastle just waltzing thru our midfield and defence at will in that last 30 minutes.

Unai will have us at it for Sunday is the straw I'm clutching as some sort of consolation.

I just wish the game was tomorrow rather than nearly a week away. Need to wash away the stain of that performance.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #362 on: August 14, 2023, 11:24:48 AM »
I think Digne is shite, and have done since he arrived.

With Gerrard's signings other than Kamara - high wage, low sell on value due to age. Those so far, some due to injury, has demonstrated their value.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #363 on: August 14, 2023, 11:26:18 AM »
for the first goal Bailey lost his runner but who didn't follow the Tonali run in ?

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #364 on: August 14, 2023, 11:32:41 AM »
The set up from the off was just completely wrong.
Yes, agree. The team didn't really look focussed in those first few minutes; cavalier might be a word to use in that they were running round like headless chickens. McGinn being on the left, after having terrorised Burn last season, and Bailey being on the pitch at all were immediate concerns.
Having said that, the Jawdies set about us and didn't allow us to find any rhythm.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #365 on: August 14, 2023, 11:36:13 AM »
I think Digne is shite, and have done since he arrived.

That's nonsense mate, to be fair. He was one of our better performers on Saturday (albeit in a tallest dwarf competition) and it was his cross that led to the goal. He's not as good as Moreno, but more than played his part last year.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #366 on: August 14, 2023, 11:51:16 AM »
Mings also to blame a bit for the first two goals I thought. Defensively we were all over the place from early on, that's on Emery. That first goal was shocking from multiple players, good save from Martinez from distance pushing ball to safety, they recycle ball back out to left. Bailey to start with half heartedly tracks Gordon, his cross takes out Cash (no man's land when he should be at front post) and 2 x CBs (Konsa mistimes his jump like a pub player, Mings dragged over with the forward to front post), Digne as always soft as butter in the physical contest. Also watch Kamara's pitiful attempts to track Tonali to start with, runs off the back of him so easily. That's 6 players all really poor. Second, Cash got caught like an idiot behind defensive line at the set piece and Mings I thought let Isak go too easily too.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #367 on: August 14, 2023, 11:54:59 AM »
I think Digne is shite, and have done since he arrived.

That's nonsense mate, to be fair. He was one of our better performers on Saturday (albeit in a tallest dwarf competition) and it was his cross that led to the goal. He's not as good as Moreno, but more than played his part last year.

No, sorry mate, I'm not having it and I've been consistent with it. He's shite, and very expensive shite too, one average cross that got flicked on notwithstanding.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #368 on: August 14, 2023, 11:59:46 AM »
for the first goal Bailey lost his runner but who didn't follow the Tonali run in ?


Even when he does get back he is too weak in the tackle

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #369 on: August 14, 2023, 12:06:32 PM »
I think Digne is shite, and have done since he arrived.

That's nonsense mate, to be fair. He was one of our better performers on Saturday (albeit in a tallest dwarf competition) and it was his cross that led to the goal. He's not as good as Moreno, but more than played his part last year.

No, sorry mate, I'm not having it and I've been consistent with it. He's shite, and very expensive shite too, one average cross that got flicked on notwithstanding.

The answer is somewhere in between. He’s more a stay at home defender than Moreno, who is very comfortable playing both attack and defence roles all game long. Digne doesn’t have the ability or engine for that so when he gets caught out of position it looks bad. But against weaker sides Digne will be fine, which is most of this division. Newcastle exposed us this weekend much like we did to them at Villa Park. It happens. Good teams sometimes get beaten and good players sometimes look less than their maximum ability. Digne isn’t he long term in that position because he won’t fit the system.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #370 on: August 14, 2023, 12:31:55 PM »
I think Digne is shite, and have done since he arrived.

That's nonsense mate, to be fair. He was one of our better performers on Saturday (albeit in a tallest dwarf competition) and it was his cross that led to the goal. He's not as good as Moreno, but more than played his part last year.

No, sorry mate, I'm not having it and I've been consistent with it. He's shite, and very expensive shite too, one average cross that got flicked on notwithstanding.

The cross also deflected off a Barcode in our favour. Thanfully Ollie was resourceful and Diaby was fcuking clinical.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #371 on: August 14, 2023, 01:25:12 PM »
Mings was available though, and we'd conceded two of the five goals with him playing. The set up from the off was just completely wrong.

Yep, and we were well in the game (2-1 down) despite being the poorer team. Given Emery's track record, I'd have backed him to sort it. However, it just didn't work at all and we sounded all over the place. Which is odd.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #372 on: August 14, 2023, 01:33:39 PM »
For me the strangest choice of the day was taking McGinn off and replacing him with Carlos after 64 minutes and we'd only just gone 3-1 down. It was the last half hour where we just fell apart completely. We were still in it until that point, and even when the goal went in I thought if we get one back quickly enough there's plenty of time to push for the draw.
I know McGinn wasn't doing much but move him to the other side, or replace him with an attacking player. Emery either has no faith in any of our subs at that point, or he thought we were playing a 2 leg tie.

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #373 on: August 14, 2023, 01:35:28 PM »
It could have been worse - imagine if Martinez had been sent off for that tomfoolery on Almiron!!!

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Re: Newcastle United vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #374 on: August 14, 2023, 01:41:56 PM »
For me the strangest choice of the day was taking McGinn off and replacing him with Carlos after 64 minutes and we'd only just gone 3-1 down. It was the last half hour where we just fell apart completely. We were still in it until that point, and even when the goal went in I thought if we get one back quickly enough there's plenty of time to push for the draw.
I know McGinn wasn't doing much but move him to the other side, or replace him with an attacking player. Emery either has no faith in any of our subs at that point, or he thought we were playing a 2 leg tie.
I wasn't sure why he took off McGinn, but I can sure as hell see why he brought on Carlos: he had to give the guy some minutes, given the loss of Mings! I'd have taken off Cash for Carlos.

 


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