Aston Villa Women 2023/24

[Dogtanian]

We are just awful in defence. They had two meaningful attacks and scored, each time from us passing them the ball from the edge of our area.

[edgysatsuma89]

Their second was a bit of a stunner, but we should've had it put to bed well before then. Unless she was hiding her fatigue I can't fathom Leon's substitution. And as much as I love the woman pencilled in for the role of the second Mrs LFS, Dali doesn't look like playing herself back into pre-World Cup form any time soon, if ever. That was disappointing today.

Exactly what we said, Leon was dangerous.

[Gareth]

Their second was a bit of a stunner, but we should've had it put to bed well before then. Unless she was hiding her fatigue I can't fathom Leon's substitution. And as much as I love the woman pencilled in for the role of the second Mrs LFS, Dali doesn't look like playing herself back into pre-World Cup form any time soon, if ever. That was disappointing today.

Exactly what we said, Leon was dangerous.

Thought it was the most involved Dali has been since the world cup but there was very little end product.  Leon was the most dangerous attacker even though she was firing crosses over the top of everyone constantly….reality is the one who should have been hooked was Daly

[dcdavecollett]

Quite an achievement (not in a good way) to have thirty-six attempts at goal and still not win!

[KNVillan]

Oh dear! rachel has been a naughty girl - 3 game ban for an incident not seen by the referee

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68228147

Aston Villa striker Rachel Daly has received a three-match ban from the Football Association for violent conduct during her side's match against Bristol City on Saturday.

Daly, 32, appeared to elbow Robins defender Megan Connolly in the face in the 39th minute of the 2-2 draw.

The incident was not picked up by match officials at the time but was caught on television cameras.

England international Daly has admitted the charge and accepted the punishment.

Connolly went down after the incident, which took place off the ball in the Bristol City penalty area, but there is no video assistant referee in the Women's Super League which meant Daly was not shown a card or reprimanded on the field.

A three-match ban is the automatic penalty for violent conduct.

Daly will miss Villa's League Cup quarter-final against Brighton on Wednesday as well as their WSL matches against Tottenham and Liverpool.

Her 22 WSL goals last season earned her the Golden Boot and she is Villa's top goalscorer this season with six WSL goals.

Carla Ward's side sit eighth in the league after a difficult start to the season.

[Dogtanian]

Can't argue with that, frustrating as it is.

3 game bans in a 22 game season, though... ouch.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

I might be missing something - though this feels like a player being 'cited' after the game based on video evidence. That works well in my view in Rugby (Union).

Though I didn't think it happened in the men's professional game. Otherwise there would be a clamour after every game to get players punished and suspended for tackles, simulation, etc.

Or does it happen, just not to any high profile players or clubs in the men's game?

[paul_e]

I might be missing something - though this feels like a player being 'cited' after the game based on video evidence. That works well in my view in Rugby (Union).

Though I didn't think it happened in the men's professional game. Otherwise there would be a clamour after every game to get players punished and suspended for tackles, simulation, etc.

Or does it happen, just not to any high profile players or clubs in the men's game?

It does happn but very rarely.

[Dogtanian]

I might be missing something - though this feels like a player being 'cited' after the game based on video evidence. That works well in my view in Rugby (Union).

Though I didn't think it happened in the men's professional game. Otherwise there would be a clamour after every game to get players punished and suspended for tackles, simulation, etc.

Or does it happen, just not to any high profile players or clubs in the men's game?

It used to happen. Basically, if they did anything violent they would look at it after the game. If the referee saw it then they left it as it was, but if the referee hadn't seen it then they would look to act.

Basically, any violent conduct the referee saw and had the opportunity to act upon is ignored, but anything that has been done sneakily can be punished.

[Risso]

The rule before VAR was that if the referee had missed an act worthy of a red card, then it could be reviewed by the FA afterwards and a punishment handed out accordingly.

https://help.thefa.com/support/solutions/articles/7000039299-how-does-the-fa-decide-whether-to-retrospectively-charge-a-player-for-an-incident-not-seen-by-the-m

If they had seen it, then in almost all circumstances no further action was taken. Now I guess, VAR is supposed to review anything like that during the game, and alert the match officials.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

OK, thanks paul_e, Dogtanian, and Risso.

We have VAR and the prospect of a letter from the PGMOL when they get it wrong! UTV

[Gareth]

Obviously a big player in the team but she has been quiet in recent games so a break and an opportunity for Salmon or Magill to get a few starts might might work out

[Lastfootstamper]

Their second was a bit of a stunner, but we should've had it put to bed well before then. Unless she was hiding her fatigue I can't fathom Leon's substitution. And as much as I love the woman pencilled in for the role of the second Mrs LFS, Dali doesn't look like playing herself back into pre-World Cup form any time soon, if ever. That was disappointing today.

Exactly what we said, Leon was dangerous.

Thought it was the most involved Dali has been since the world cup but there was very little end product.  Leon was the most dangerous attacker even though she was firing crosses over the top of everyone constantly….reality is the one who should have been hooked was Daly

I can't question her commitment or effort, I think she covered every blade of grass in her efforts to get on the ball. But it's that end product, it's not happening. I doubt she found Daly successfully much more than once or twice, which is hardly surprising given how far apart they seem to find themselves most of the time.

[Somniloquism]

OK, thanks paul_e, Dogtanian, and Risso.

We have VAR and the prospect of a letter from the PGMOL when they get it wrong! UTV

Even with VAR, red cards can still be overturned, just look at Everton the other month. Whether retrospective ones can still be given if missed by both the Ref and VAR we haven't found out yet. But VAR is supposed to be the instant action of the same post match process which have caused quite a lot of players to be carded a couple of days later. (Unless their name was Alan Shearer and threatened to walk out of the 98 England Squad if he was post-match judged for booting Lennon in the face).

[edgysatsuma89]

A couple of decent saves but only 2 going in out of 8 is really poor. Good to be in a semi!