Pau Torres

[Beard82]

I think Torres reads the game well - but his recovery pace and strength doesnt help.  In the CM and CD we havent managed to get a settled team until quite recently which I think is a big part.  I do think Dougie is a big miss

I also think the churn is as much as anything our problem - the fact we have sell - and then have to buy to replace who we sell.  So I think its a team thing as much as anything - we cant keep the ball and "manage" the game as well as we could for large parts of last season. 

With Pau specifically, I dont have a huge issue - my only frustration is there are maybe 3 or 4 times where Mings has been better suited but hasnt played. 

[cdbearsfan]

Leave me out of it, thanks.

[LeeB]

Torres is heavier than Mings by 3kg. Given there's nothing too any of them fat wise, that's lean muscle mass. Torres is marginally shorter too; 1.91m v 1.96m.

I'm not having it, that's like Shay Given being 6ft 2.

[Monty]

Shay Given has a small man's face, no doubt there.

[LeeB]

Shay Given has a small man's face, no doubt there.

I got in a lift with him at the Mailbox once, I'm bang on 6ft and I was taller than him.

[Brazilian Villain]

Shay Given has a small man's face, no doubt there.

I got in a lift with him at the Mailbox once, I'm bang on 6ft and I was taller than him.

Pity the fools who are under 6ft tall.

[olaftab]

Shay Given has a small man's face, no doubt there.

I got in a lift with him at the Mailbox once, I'm bang on 6ft and I was taller than him.

But you still wear stacked heel loafers from your disco glamrock days.

[Drummond]

Shay Given has a small man's face, no doubt there.

I got in a lift with him at the Mailbox once, I'm bang on 6ft and I was taller than him.

Pity the fools who are under 6ft tall.

What about if you're six feet on one leg and five eleven and a half on the other?

[Brazilian Villain]

Shay Given has a small man's face, no doubt there.

I got in a lift with him at the Mailbox once, I'm bang on 6ft and I was taller than him.

Pity the fools who are under 6ft tall.

What about if you're six feet on one leg and five eleven and a half on the other?

Try putting your other shoe on.

[pauliewalnuts]

I am starting to wonder if he's ever going to be really dependable defensively in this league, or if it just doesn't suit him.

And yes, played in a high achieving Villa team etc etc, but hey ho.

[PaulWinch again]

If we’re going to play this horrible, stodgy, narrow, style (and I really hope that isn’t the plan) then he’s not the right player at all.

[Villafirst]

Poor today. No pace which is a big worry.

[pelty]

Torres is as bad a defender as I have ever seen. Slow, poor with his head, cannot pass (despite his reputation), does not get stuck in. What a lump.

[PaulWinch again]

Not watched much football then?

[Demitri_C]

 Another pau performance.
Mings was carrying him today. Really poor at times.