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Offline RamboandBruno

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #645 on: July 16, 2023, 11:36:24 AM »
I can see a back 4 of

Konsa Mings Torres Moreno

at times next season. Particularly giving Moreno licence to push forward. The other three have pace and an ability to read the game and make last ditch tackles too.

I think that is spot on. Looking at the pathetic headed clearance attempt by Carlos against Walsall for thier goal I think he is the weakest of the 4 CB'S have

I'd be concerned if we end up playing Konsa at right-back in anything other than an emergency. He is a decent centre-back but his distribution is average at best. It was noticeable how many times he had the chance to thread fairly easy balls through the lines into the midfield in games at the back end of last season but instead opted to play the ball to the right back.

Mings, by contrast, was playing some really astute balls into the midfield which initiated attacks.

To be honest if we don't buy another specialist right-back then I'd say we'd be risking the opportunity to make further progress next season.

I agree with Bobby boy
Given that it looks like Digne might be on his way out of the club and reports indicate Moreno might not be fit until a few games into the season, it feels like left back may end up being prioritised over right back, particularly as Emery likes to set up with the left full back bombing on, where at least Cash is fit at RB. 

With a month to go till we k/o against Newcastle, i really don’t see us getting in cover at right back, left back, goalie and two attack minded players.

You’d hope if Digne is going, the club have got another left back lined up. Tierney would be a great signing in my view. If something like that happened, along with Diaby and Johnson and what we’ve already done, it would possibly be the best window we’ve had……other than the back up goalie situation.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #646 on: July 16, 2023, 01:25:01 PM »
Above every other need a new RB is uttermost priority IMO. I m afraid Cash isnt up to the standard needed there when we are upgrading the team in most other departments; just my opinion, wont go into details (but being able to playing out of the back for one thing, then also important to have enough sense of positioning and timing in duels (both on ground and in air) as a RB and being able to deliver a decent cross more often than not would bre welcome as well). When Young is gone we dont have an alternative there as we are going in to the new season. Though I have strangely got a bit used to a feeling I will be disappointed when it comes to getting in a RB that is up to it.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #647 on: July 16, 2023, 01:43:37 PM »
I agree we need an upgrade on Cash.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #648 on: July 17, 2023, 01:24:06 PM »
It's rare to see two left centre backs playing in a 4.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #649 on: July 17, 2023, 01:24:34 PM »
I agree we need an upgrade on Cash.
Like the way football is.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #650 on: July 17, 2023, 01:35:29 PM »
It's rare to see two left centre backs playing in a 4.

mostly because there are significantly more right footed players than anything else.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #651 on: July 17, 2023, 01:51:24 PM »
It's rare to see two left centre backs playing in a 4.

mostly because there are significantly more right footed players than anything else.

Mostly because its balance.
Mings couldn't play right centre back he's left footed.
Pau has the ability too but he's a left centre back.
It's fascinating to see how it goes if it is two left centre backs.
I don't support that idea though it's unnecessary and unlikely from how I understand a back 4 defence woth 2 centre backs.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #652 on: July 17, 2023, 01:55:08 PM »
It's rare to see two left centre backs playing in a 4.

mostly because there are significantly more right footed players than anything else.

Mostly because its balance.
Mings couldn't play right centre back he's left footed.
Pau has the ability too but he's a left centre back.
It's fascinating to see how it goes if it is two left centre backs.
I don't support that idea though it's unnecessary and unlikely from how I understand a back 4 defence woth 2 centre backs.

But hasn't Mings played right CB alongside Maguire for England?

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #653 on: July 17, 2023, 01:58:07 PM »
No idea, but if he has it will have been against a team of farmers.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #654 on: July 17, 2023, 01:58:30 PM »
It's rare to see two left centre backs playing in a 4.

mostly because there are significantly more right footed players than anything else.

Mostly because its balance.
Mings couldn't play right centre back he's left footed.
Pau has the ability too but he's a left centre back.
It's fascinating to see how it goes if it is two left centre backs.
I don't support that idea though it's unnecessary and unlikely from how I understand a back 4 defence woth 2 centre backs.

But hasn't Mings played right CB alongside Maguire for England?

Yep. And people many left footers have played at rcb and vice versa, it's a nonsense thing to say that people can't. They don't very often, but they certainly can

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #655 on: July 17, 2023, 02:02:12 PM »
But hasn't Mings played right CB alongside Maguire for England?

Oh, actually looking at his game with Maguire against Bulgaria, Mings played left.

He played right in a back 3 against Ireland, but that looks like his only time.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #656 on: July 17, 2023, 02:04:08 PM »
It's rare to see two left centre backs playing in a 4.

mostly because there are significantly more right footed players than anything else.

Mostly because its balance.
Mings couldn't play right centre back he's left footed.
Pau has the ability too but he's a left centre back.
It's fascinating to see how it goes if it is two left centre backs.
I don't support that idea though it's unnecessary and unlikely from how I understand a back 4 defence woth 2 centre backs.

But hasn't Mings played right CB alongside Maguire for England?

No idea, but if he has it will have been against a team of farmers.

Exactly so going on that basis Mings And Pau will only play together in conferences league matches or cup games . Maybe the theory they are going with for the two of them.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #657 on: July 17, 2023, 02:06:17 PM »
It's rare to see two left centre backs playing in a 4.

mostly because there are significantly more right footed players than anything else.

Mostly because its balance.
Mings couldn't play right centre back he's left footed.
Pau has the ability too but he's a left centre back.
It's fascinating to see how it goes if it is two left centre backs.
I don't support that idea though it's unnecessary and unlikely from how I understand a back 4 defence woth 2 centre backs.

No it isn't, no one bats an eyelid if you have 2 right-footed centre backs. People don't like it with lefties because it looks a bit weird, that's all it is.

Both of them will have played on the left more than the right because conventional wisdom is that you want to be turning away on your stronger foot, which means by going a normal right/left combo you are never opening up on the inside. When your average centre-half struggled to pass wind that made sense but now the vast majority are far more technically capable than that.

What does come into it though is familiarity with the players around you and the area you're in on the pitch. That gets addressed in training and friendlies and won't be enough of an issue to stop them playing together if that's how Emery decides to go.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #658 on: July 17, 2023, 02:06:58 PM »
It's rare to see two left centre backs playing in a 4.

mostly because there are significantly more right footed players than anything else.

Mostly because its balance.
Mings couldn't play right centre back he's left footed.
Pau has the ability too but he's a left centre back.
It's fascinating to see how it goes if it is two left centre backs.
I don't support that idea though it's unnecessary and unlikely from how I understand a back 4 defence woth 2 centre backs.

But hasn't Mings played right CB alongside Maguire for England?

Yep. And people many left footers have played at rcb and vice versa, it's a nonsense thing to say that people can't. They don't very often, but they certainly can

What we could see it's Kamara dropping into the back while Torres has forays forwards.
That would be something which keeps a balance.
Pau likes to carry the ball and step into midfield so that could be something the team will do if Emery chooses to go with two left footed centre backs in big premier league matches.

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Re: Pau Torres (shirt well & truly stretched)
« Reply #659 on: July 17, 2023, 02:09:38 PM »
We also have to take into account Mings' strengths cover for Torres' weaknesses and vise versa. If we can get them playing together, I think they're our best pairing.

 


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