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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #225 on: July 01, 2023, 10:42:22 PM »
Astnor why are you posting this news on here?
By the way your name spelled backward, Rontsa, sounds very ladylike.

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #226 on: July 01, 2023, 10:54:32 PM »
Astnor why are you posting this news on here?
By the way your name spelled backward, Rontsa, sounds very ladylike.
:) Then there is this frase: "If you point the finger at someone you have three fingers pointing at yourself!"

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #227 on: July 01, 2023, 11:23:17 PM »
Astnor why are you posting this news on here?
By the way your name spelled backward, Rontsa, sounds very ladylike.
:) Then there is this frase: "If you point the finger at someone you have three fingers pointing at yourself!"

'Batfalo' doesn't sound too great.

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #228 on: July 02, 2023, 12:46:27 AM »
Astnor why are you posting this news on here?
By the way your name spelled backward, Rontsa, sounds very ladylike.
:) Then there is this frase: "If you point the finger at someone you have three fingers pointing at yourself!"

'Batfalo' doesn't sound too great.

Good mozzarella though.

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #229 on: July 02, 2023, 12:53:04 AM »
Astnor why are you posting this news on here?
By the way your name spelled backward, Rontsa, sounds very ladylike.
:) Then there is this frase: "If you point the finger at someone you have three fingers pointing at yourself!"

'Batfalo' doesn't sound too great.

Good mozzarella though.

Oh undoubtedly, Dave.

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #230 on: July 02, 2023, 09:00:49 AM »
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PETE JENSON: Aston Villa have pulled off a major coup by signing Pau Torres... but Unai Emery has his work cut out to get the defender back to his best after a below-par season for Villarreal
Aston Villa have signed defender Pau Torres from Villarreal for £35 million
The Spaniard shone in Unai Emery's time at the club but fell away last season

The signing of Pau Torres represents great business for Aston Villa – he is only 26, he’s left-sided, and he’s only costing them £35m. But the move also represents a huge challenge for Unai Emery.

It was Emery, when he was at Villarreal, who helped established Torres as Spain’s first choice centre-back under Luis Enrique. Since Emery left, Torres has slipped out the national squad.

The most talented centre-back to emerge in Spain since Sergio Ramos and Gerard Pique, began to stagnate a bit last season – the queue of suitors diminished and so did the giant strides he made as a young player.



Emery will know all about the potential. Sporting Director Monchi will also know exactly what former Sevilla defender Diego Carlos needs to have alongside him – if it does end up being the plan to pair the two (Tyrone Mings, certainly better in the air than both of them, will have other ideas).

But both Emery and Monchi will be aware that Torres will need to improve on certain areas of his game if he is to acclimatize to the Premier League and fulfill his huge potential.

His greatest attribute is his ability to bring the ball out from the back. His pass completion rate was good for Villarreal and the numbers were not built on sideways balls to his central defensive partner, he was asked to be incisive and pass through the opposition’s lines.

If he progresses well under Emery then he could end up giving Villa something of what John Stones gives Manchester City.

His willingness to play out will be targeted by teams but playing for Luis Enrique with the national side he showed he could play out under pressure.

His recovery pace is good too. One of his early partners in the Spain team was Ramos who loves a forward foray leaving space behind him that can be exposed if the team lose possession. Torres was quick and alert enough to deal with that.

He had the same situation under another ball-playing central defensive partner in Eric Garcia. Alongside Carlos or Mings – assuming Ezri Konsa moves to right-back – it is unlikely to be an issue.

But covering the attacking runs of his left back will be, and that’s another well-developed trait to his game.

Spain always play with an offensive player down that flank and he will be able to cover the runs of Alex Moreno.

The facets that will most need to be developed are his aerial game and his aggression. The second should not be a problem.

He is a powerful athlete he will soon grow accustomed to the subtle difference in refereeing between Spain and England and the way a more permissive match official makes for more physical and combatant duels. Likewise in the air he will have to improve, but standing at 6ft 3ins there is no reason why he won’t.

None of this might be enough to convince skeptical Villa fans who are wondering why no one in Spain snapped him up at such a good price. Barcelona might have been interested but are restricted to free transfers and so preferred Athletic Bilbao’s Iñigo Martinez who had run his contract down. Madrid don’t need centre-backs.

As for the apparent waning interest from Liverpool and Manchester United – it will perhaps have something to do with that tailing off of development. But in part, it was the fact that he did not move when it was first mooted that has stopped him growing as a player.

Torres spoke to Mail Sport in late 2021, a couple of months after his faultless displays in Europe had landed Villarreal their first trophy – the Europa League – and made him the target for big clubs in England.

He wanted to stay and play for his hometown side for the first time ever in the Champions League. He is the first Villarreal-born player to play European football for the club.

‘For me it was a dream come true to play in the competition with the club of my life,’ he said. That interview took place just as Emery was turning down Newcastle.

The coach stayed for similar reasons – they had both got Villarreal into this position and they wanted to experience it. And for Torres there was that added pull of responsibility that representing his own family and friends brings – he had felt it when taking the penalty in the shoot-out in the Europa League final against Manchester United.

‘I couldn’t miss,’ he said. ‘I am the only one from the town and there were lots of people in the stand that I knew.’

It was noticeable during his time at the club that while the rest of the squad lived in the surrounding cities or coastal towns Torres stayed in Villarreal, even buying a property in the small town of just 50,000 people.

All that was admirable and it went well the following season when Villarreal reached the semi-finals of the Champions League.

But last season, when Emery eventually moved on, it was a reminder that advancing his career probably meant leaving. The romance of his story was no longer compensation for the way his development had been stunted costing him his place in the Spain team.

Now he is back with his old boss and if they can manage to pick up where they left off the last time they were together, Pau will soon be back in the Spain team, and Unai will be guiding Villa to a trophy.

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #231 on: July 02, 2023, 09:55:28 AM »
Why on earth would we push Konsa out to right back?

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« Reply #232 on: July 02, 2023, 10:14:49 AM »
Why on earth would we push Konsa out to right back?

Emery likes this lop-sided business. Left full-back overlaps, right one tucks in etc. Bit like we used to do in midfield with Morley and Bremner.

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #233 on: July 02, 2023, 10:18:15 AM »
Why on earth would we push Konsa out to right back?

The theory is so we can become a back three whilst Moreno bombs forward.  I like the tactic but I’m not sure Konsa is that well suited to it, as he would need to push forward himself. And i;m not sure that’s his game.  I actually think Cash tucking in has more potential due to his recovery pace and tackling.

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« Reply #234 on: July 02, 2023, 10:35:21 AM »
Why on earth would we push Konsa out to right back?

The theory is so we can become a back three whilst Moreno bombs forward.  I like the tactic but I’m not sure Konsa is that well suited to it, as he would need to push forward himself. And i;m not sure that’s his game.  I actually think Cash tucking in has more potential due to his recovery pace and tackling.
I cant see Konsa as a RB either. The one game he was moved over there to the end of last season when Carlos came on - he didnt do too well; he was rounded and didnt contribute to the forward game. Also I m a big fan of Konsa and had hoped he had done well there as we are short on RB and the competition for a CB spot is tougher than since longer than I can remember.
Very interesting to see how our defence will shape up next season with all those very able CB s with different quality. BTW how come British CB s often better than foreigners in the air?

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #235 on: July 02, 2023, 11:18:40 AM »
I think it's funny how folk have been so traumatised by the Bruce & Gerrard years, there's this ingrained assumption that we're going to play at least one player out of position.

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #236 on: July 02, 2023, 11:55:42 AM »
Playing Konsa at right back in an Emery team who likes his full backs mobile, adventurous and Bombing  forward is probably one of the most ridiculous suggestions and things I’ve ever read on here

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #237 on: July 02, 2023, 11:57:34 AM »
Why on earth would we push Konsa out to right back?

Emery likes this lop-sided business. Left full-back overlaps, right one tucks in etc. Bit like we used to do in midfield with Morley and Bremner.
Now you'd think that was done almost by design but never seen it mentioned in the Press as obviously no way Sir Ron would have been smart enough to do that.

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Re: Pau Torres
« Reply #238 on: July 02, 2023, 12:03:39 PM »
Why on earth would we push Konsa out to right back?

Emery likes this lop-sided business. Left full-back overlaps, right one tucks in etc. Bit like we used to do in midfield with Morley and Bremner.
Now you'd think that was done almost by design but never seen it mentioned in the Press as obviously no way Sir Ron would have been smart enough to do that.

Probably copying Clough or Paisley.

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« Reply #239 on: July 02, 2023, 12:08:30 PM »
Playing Konsa at right back in an Emery team who likes his full backs mobile, adventurous and Bombing  forward is probably one of the most ridiculous suggestions and things I’ve ever read on here
It’s up there with we should sign Ayoze Perez.

 


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