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Offline LeeB

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #735 on: December 08, 2023, 12:52:21 PM »
Yeh the markers are always going to be prices set by other players. The English “tax” so to speak of a Declan Rice was somewhat levelled out by Chelsea going all in on the likes of Enzo Fernandez or Caicedo. All three in the £100m mark. So when you look at actual performance stats, there is a case that Douglas Luiz is every bit a £100m player. After that I’d say Kamara, French levelled his age is around £70-80m, JJ about the £50-60m when you look at what he’s achieved when fit, Tielemans just below that along with McGinn.

I'm not sure. Who could we replace McGinn with thats as good for 50 million?

I don't think we could replace him with £500m, he has a completely unique skillset

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #736 on: December 08, 2023, 01:03:43 PM »
McGinn’s transfer value isn’t what he’s worth to us. It’s more comparable to players who have sold in the market of similar stats and age. He’s 29 so that’s the tail end of sell on fees. But he’s priceless to us for traits that are intangible as much as his actual talent.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #737 on: December 08, 2023, 01:06:43 PM »
I'm not sure. Who could we replace McGinn with thats as good for 50 million?
I don't think we could replace him with £500m, he has a completely unique skillset

He's got the most lucrative arse since that lass on the tennis poster.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #738 on: December 08, 2023, 01:15:17 PM »
I'm not sure. Who could we replace McGinn with thats as good for 50 million?
I don't think we could replace him with £500m, he has a completely unique skillset

He's got the most lucrative arse since that lass on the tennis poster.

He's going to start getting harrassed for dates by rap stars at this rate.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #739 on: December 08, 2023, 01:22:24 PM »
That site says McGinn is worth €25mil, and we reckon at least double, so €50mil. A quick look through some other squads and

Brennan Johnson - €48mil
Kai Havertz - €60mil
Ward-Prowse - €38mil
Barnes - €35mil
Gordon - €45mil

JWP is around the same age as McGinn, so a decent comparison. Bit Gordon is the only player there a team might like to have more than McGinn.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #740 on: December 08, 2023, 01:29:17 PM »
That site says McGinn is worth €25mil, and we reckon at least double, so €50mil. A quick look through some other squads and

Brennan Johnson - €48mil
Kai Havertz - €60mil
Ward-Prowse - €38mil
Barnes - €35mil
Gordon - €45mil

JWP is around the same age as McGinn, so a decent comparison. Bit Gordon is the only player there a team might like to have more than McGinn.

I think that all of those are more or less what their 2023 transfer fee was, aren't they?

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #741 on: December 08, 2023, 01:47:26 PM »
That site says McGinn is worth €25mil, and we reckon at least double, so €50mil. A quick look through some other squads and

Brennan Johnson - €48mil
Kai Havertz - €60mil
Ward-Prowse - €38mil
Barnes - €35mil
Gordon - €45mil

JWP is around the same age as McGinn, so a decent comparison. Bit Gordon is the only player there a team might like to have more than McGinn.

I think that all of those are more or less what their 2023 transfer fee was, aren't they?

Yeah, I'd imagine anyone with a recent transfer has a pretty accurate value on that site. Anyone who hasn't moved for a while involves some guess work.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #742 on: December 08, 2023, 07:41:09 PM »
What's the midfield worth compared to what we spent on it?

According to TransferMarket (I know)

Ramsey - €42mil
Tielemans - €20mil
McGinn - €27mil
Luiz - €55mil
Kamara - €30mil

That's €154mil combined, and obviously we know we'd be looking for way more than that value for at least 3 of them.

I'd welcome a bid at any of those values to see how quickly they'd get rejected out of hand.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #743 on: December 08, 2023, 07:43:28 PM »
It wouldn't get as far as a bid being submitted at those levels.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #744 on: December 08, 2023, 07:45:38 PM »
McGinn - €27mil

LOL, I mean, jesus christ.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #745 on: December 08, 2023, 07:52:48 PM »
What's the midfield worth compared to what we spent on it?

According to TransferMarket (I know)

Ramsey - €42mil
Tielemans - €20mil
McGinn - €27mil
Luiz - €55mil
Kamara - €30mil

That's €154mil combined, and obviously we know we'd be looking for way more than that value for at least 3 of them.

I'd welcome a bid at any of those values to see how quickly they'd get rejected out of hand.

Yes I’d suggest they are substantially off market value.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #746 on: December 08, 2023, 08:23:07 PM »
McGinn - €27mil

LOL, I mean, jesus christ.

I said on here last season or the season before  (when a few people had forgotten how good a player he's been for us  and were more concerned about fat shaming him for some childish reason) that we would still get £20m and I got laughed at. Short memories. Glad he's proved you all wrong. He's been outstanding.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #747 on: December 08, 2023, 08:25:40 PM »
McGinn - €27mil

LOL, I mean, jesus christ.

I said on here last season or the season before  (when a few people had forgotten how good a player he's been for us  and were more concerned about fat shaming him for some childish reason) that we would still get £20m and I got laughed at. Short memories. Glad he's proved you all wrong. He's been outstanding.

I think he suffers due to being Scottish. If he was German, or Spanish, or French, the media would have him as a £100m player.  The fact he's a pale Scottish fella with an unconventional running style means he often doesn't "look" like a good player, when he's clearly brilliant.

I still can't believe he only cost £2.5m.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #748 on: December 08, 2023, 08:30:04 PM »
I remember being at Ipswich not long after we signed him and you could tell then that we'd signed a cracking player. £2.5m was an absolute steal.

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Re: Youri Tielemans (confirmed)
« Reply #749 on: December 08, 2023, 08:30:32 PM »
I think he suffers due to being Scottish. If he was German, or Spanish, or French, the media would have him as a £100m player.  The fact he's a pale Scottish fella with an unconventional running style means he often doesn't "look" like a good player, when he's clearly brilliant.

I still can't believe he only cost £2.5m.

Don't exaggerate, he cost £2.75m.

 


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