Youri Tielemans

[olaftab]

He reminds me of Delph, the way he slithers and sneaks and back tracks.

FIFY.

[paul_e]

Percy wrote recently that Villa's five-man midfield selection cost a total of £17.5m in transfer fees!

It's really good. It's why I don't get why some fans whinge about our net spend.

Agreed, if you can form a midfield with that much quality for so little then why does anyone care about net spend, fans all over the country really need to get away from the thinking that bigger fees is better. For me I'd be happy if we settled into a pattern where we only need to actually spend anything in about 1 in 4 windows, that's how you become a sustainable club.

[WarszaVillan]

He reminds me of Delph, the way he moves and his flicks and back heels.

Wash your mouth out WV. Don’t ever mention Tielemans in the same sentence as that fucking snake.

There's a bit of Hodge about him as well.

[dr.chekov]

haha.

[OCD]

Then add Moreno ~£11m and Martinez for £17m for 2 more examples.

I think if you don't continually invest, you end up going backwards but thinking that you need to spend massive money is a narrative that Sky have created.

[Risso]

You don't have to spend big, but there's a huge correlation between big spending teams and trophies won. Obviously there are teams that have spent lots without winning anything too. It'd be nice to buck the trend somewhat, but also I wouldn't want to miss out on targets by only going for freebies.

[Clampy]

But we're not only only going for freebies. Two of his buys in the summer came to £80m.

[OCD]

I think there's probably a greater correlation between the wage bill and league position. I suspect it's the wage bills that Emery refers to there being 7 clubs ahead of us, that there probably are 7 clubs paying more in wages and who, on that basis should be above us.

[Risso]

But we're not only only going for freebies. Two of his buys in the summer came to £80m.

I know we didn't, it was just a general point.

[AV84]

What's the midfield worth compared to what we spent on it?

According to TransferMarket (I know)

Ramsey - €42mil
Tielemans - €20mil
McGinn - €27mil
Luiz - €55mil
Kamara - €30mil

That's €154mil combined, and obviously we know we'd be looking for way more than that value for at least 3 of them.

[OCD]

You could probably double those figures for what teams might actually pay for them.

[hipkiss92]

You don't have to spend big, but there's a huge correlation between big spending teams and trophies won. Obviously there are teams that have spent lots without winning anything too. It'd be nice to buck the trend somewhat, but also I wouldn't want to miss out on targets by only going for freebies.

The correlation tends to be more between wage bill and league finish, rather than spend on transfer fees. Makes sense I suppose, fees will have other factors such as who the buying and selling clubs are, length left on contract etc.

[paul_e]

What's the midfield worth compared to what we spent on it?

According to TransferMarket (I know)

Ramsey - €42mil
Tielemans - €20mil
McGinn - €27mil
Luiz - €55mil
Kamara - €30mil

That's €154mil combined, and obviously we know we'd be looking for way more than that value for at least 3 of them.

I quite like how they do valuation but, if we're honest, that's about half the true figure it would cost to buy that lot.

[Toronto Villa]

Yeh the markers are always going to be prices set by other players. The English “tax” so to speak of a Declan Rice was somewhat levelled out by Chelsea going all in on the likes of Enzo Fernandez or Caicedo. All three in the £100m mark. So when you look at actual performance stats, there is a case that Douglas Luiz is every bit a £100m player. After that I’d say Kamara, French levelled his age is around £70-80m, JJ about the £50-60m when you look at what he’s achieved when fit, Tielemans just below that along with McGinn.

[taylorsworkrate]

Yeh the markers are always going to be prices set by other players. The English “tax” so to speak of a Declan Rice was somewhat levelled out by Chelsea going all in on the likes of Enzo Fernandez or Caicedo. All three in the £100m mark. So when you look at actual performance stats, there is a case that Douglas Luiz is every bit a £100m player. After that I’d say Kamara, French levelled his age is around £70-80m, JJ about the £50-60m when you look at what he’s achieved when fit, Tielemans just below that along with McGinn.

I'm not sure. Who could we replace McGinn with thats as good for 50 million?