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Author Topic: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?  (Read 36153 times)

Offline brontebilly

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #165 on: June 05, 2023, 11:54:14 PM »
Lets not forget the promise of a full pre season under his belt  to see his true managerial brilliance, we became worse

To be fair, the pre-season was as good as it got under his reign!

Entirely speculative...but I think something badly went wrong during that pre season tour off the pitch. We were an absolute rabble against Bournemouth that first day.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #166 on: June 06, 2023, 03:58:15 PM »
It was pretty clear that whatever tactics he wanted the team to adopt, they must have been pretty sketchy, the sort of thing the average bloke propping up the bar might come up with. Something along the lines of 'Cashy and Digny get forward all the time, and Ginny and Dougy drop back to cover the full back positions. The rest of you just do your thing'.

That impression is only strengthened by Mings' comments, made after Emery joined, about the level of detail in the preparation for matches.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #167 on: June 07, 2023, 01:03:46 AM »
When the ridiculous decisions went on the preseason tour of Australia, there were warning signs literally ! with Gerrard Down Under! I warned about the risk to the players' recovery at the time, and in the end, it cost Gerrard his Villa career. The preseason was completely off. He fooled a lot of people by getting results and going undefeated, but there were some clear signs in the performances and systems. And of course when Villa started season were under prepared .
In addition, he makes a fool of himself by his interviews yes Villa's finished in 14th place and it's unacceptable but the fact that it was Gerrard McAllister Beadle and Crichton, not the players, who let us down and took us there.
Emery demonstrated how to make a top half finish.
Gerrard was taking us one way down under again if he was sticking around.


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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #168 on: June 07, 2023, 01:06:07 AM »
I didn't think I would dislike a Villa manager as much as David O'Leary but Gerrard runs him very close.

I didn't think I like anyone more than Smith but Emery is going to woo me and I feel guilty.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #169 on: June 07, 2023, 08:08:40 AM »
When the ridiculous decisions went on the preseason tour of Australia, there were warning signs literally ! with Gerrard Down Under! I warned about the risk to the players' recovery at the time, and in the end, it cost Gerrard his Villa career. The preseason was completely off. He fooled a lot of people by getting results and going undefeated, but there were some clear signs in the performances and systems. And of course when Villa started season were under prepared .
In addition, he makes a fool of himself by his interviews yes Villa's finished in 14th place and it's unacceptable but the fact that it was Gerrard McAllister Beadle and Crichton, not the players, who let us down and took us there.
Emery demonstrated how to make a top half finish.
Gerrard was taking us one way down under again if he was sticking around.



Yeah, because the thousands that followed the Villa in Australia were gutted at the ridiculous decision to come to this side of the world, instead of us spending shit loads of money to go to England to see Villa. I don't think the trip to Australia had any bearing on the season, it was just that Gerrard was not a very good manager and an even worse judge of character (i.e. dropping big Ty). From there it was only going to go one way.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #170 on: June 07, 2023, 08:11:46 AM »
Yes we would

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #171 on: June 07, 2023, 08:19:27 AM »
I didn't think I would dislike a Villa manager as much as David O'Leary but Gerrard runs him very close.

I didn't think I like anyone more than Smith but Emery is going to woo me and I feel guilty.

You just make sure he buys you dinner first, footy!  ;)

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #172 on: June 07, 2023, 11:35:43 AM »

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #173 on: June 07, 2023, 11:42:43 AM »
Danny Mills explains why Gerrard is in fact a good manager actually.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pundit-defends-steven-gerrards-aston-27071189

Mills is talking crap as usual.

The Chumpionship is Gerrard's level at best where meticulous coaching is maybe not the overarching focus.

I heard Simon Jordan on Talkshite the other day and said if he was hiring Gerrard he'd ask him what did he do right at Rangers that didn't work out at Villa. And what has he learnt and what would he do differently.
I can imagine Gerrard not having the slightest idea how to answer the Villa related aspects of the question because whichever way you dress it it up, it will make him look like a prick out of his depth.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #174 on: June 07, 2023, 11:49:33 AM »
Danny Mills explains why Gerrard is in fact a good manager actually.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pundit-defends-steven-gerrards-aston-27071189

"He’s a good young manager with a point to prove. He’s got passion, drive, desire and he can attract players,"

That's standard and a given for any would be manager.  What else can he bring to the table?  Meticulous attention to detail, tactics against any given team or opponent, coaching, bringing a squad together, ability to change tactic during a game, not talking down your chances against supposedly superior opposition, coaching?

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #175 on: June 07, 2023, 12:05:15 PM »
Danny Mills explains why Gerrard is in fact a good manager actually.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pundit-defends-steven-gerrards-aston-27071189

Mills is talking crap as usual.

The Chumpionship is Gerrard's level at best where meticulous coaching is maybe not the overarching focus.

I heard Simon Jordan on Talkshite the other day and said if he was hiring Gerrard he'd ask him what did he do right at Rangers that didn't work out at Villa. And what has he learnt and what would he do differently.
I can imagine Gerrard not having the slightest idea how to answer the Villa related aspects of the question because whichever way you dress it it up, it will make him look like a prick out of his depth.

Had Mick Beale, lost Mick Beale, would get Mick Beale.

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #176 on: June 07, 2023, 12:19:07 PM »
Its funny how his mates in the media are whoring him out now he has been linked to a couple of jobs that are also out of his depth...

Danny Mills explains why Gerrard is in fact a good manager actually.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pundit-defends-steven-gerrards-aston-27071189

Translated to: "Danny Mills explains that his mate needs another job."

Danny Mills explains why Gerrard is in fact a good manager actually.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pundit-defends-steven-gerrards-aston-27071189

"He’s a good young manager with a point to prove. He’s got passion, drive, desire and he can attract players,"


Giving the definition of a generic member of a recruitment team.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2023, 12:22:30 PM by pablo_picasso »

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #177 on: June 07, 2023, 01:06:31 PM »
I've had enough of this.

He's a ex Sevco wanker with an ego the size of a small country and hated seeing how popular someone like Tyrone Mings was so did something about it. That had nothing to do with football, nothing to do with management and everything to do with being a spiteful arsehole with skin as thin as crepe paper.

Fuck him.

And Mills.

Offline Sunny Villa

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #178 on: June 07, 2023, 01:59:53 PM »
I've had enough of this.

He's a ex Sevco wanker with an ego the size of a small country and hated seeing how popular someone like Tyrone Mings was so did something about it. That had nothing to do with football, nothing to do with management and everything to do with being a spiteful arsehole with skin as thin as crepe paper.

Fuck him.

And Mills.

Thread over !   well played sir .

Offline BC Villain

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Re: Would We Have Gone Down Under Gerrard?
« Reply #179 on: June 07, 2023, 07:22:08 PM »
Danny Mills explains why Gerrard is in fact a good manager actually.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/pundit-defends-steven-gerrards-aston-27071189

Pity Birmingham Live haven't got anything better to do than give boneheads like Mills airtime

 


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