Villa 2 Tottenham 1 post-match thread

[Drummond]

https://twitter.com/VillaPaddy/status/1657453614481195009?t=FUYhynPp_udK9TTKTC7uuw&s=19

What's the difference?

One has Harry Kane, pet of the Sky 6 and glorious England captain, the other doesn't.

[DeKuip]

You can’t be offside in your own half though.

I know, but if he’s come back into his own half from an offside position the free kick is always taken from where he touches the ball (not where he came from).

It's not, it's taken from where the linesman gives it. The same as any other offside.

No it’s not, it’s taken from where the offence occurs. There is a difference between “offside offence” and “offside position”. So a player who was in an offside position who then comes back into his own half and immediately challenges an opponent or touches the ball has committed the offence in his own half and that is where the free kick is taken from.

[coreyfeldman]

You can’t be offside in your own half though.

I know, but if he’s come back into his own half from an offside position the free kick is always taken from where he touches the ball (not where he came from).

It's not, it's taken from where the linesman gives it. The same as any other offside.

No it’s not, it’s taken from where the offence occurs. There is a difference between “offside offence” and “offside position”. So a player who was in an offside position who then comes back into his own half and immediately challenges an opponent or touches the ball has committed the offence in his own half and that is where the free kick is taken from.

Nope

[Lastfootstamper]

I stand corrected. Every day's a school day.

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

[Chap]

This from the FA website.

4. Offences and sanctions
If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free kick where the offence occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

[DeKuip]

You can’t be offside in your own half though.

I know, but if he’s come back into his own half from an offside position the free kick is always taken from where he touches the ball (not where he came from).

It's not, it's taken from where the linesman gives it. The same as any other offside.

No it’s not, it’s taken from where the offence occurs. There is a difference between “offside offence” and “offside position”. So a player who was in an offside position who then comes back into his own half and immediately challenges an opponent or touches the ball has committed the offence in his own half and that is where the free kick is taken from.

Nope

The laws of the game state…

If an offside offence occurs, the referee awards an indirect free-kick where the offence  occurred, including if it is in the player’s own half of the field of play.

[Lastfootstamper]

I'm glad I'm not the only one without something better to do on a Saturday night!

[DeKuip]

Sorry I didn’t see your reply quoting the rule before repeating what you’d already said!
I’ll go and saw cricket rules now to get me to sleep.

[Gareth]

Having watched the pen on MotD even more convinced it’s dreadful officiating…there is no telling if Emi gets a touch on the ball…no way clear and obvious…ref had an opinion which was corner, VAR had no proof just a guess that it was a pen & once sent to screen the VAR won the argument.  Poor use of VAR powers, gutless refereeing.  Wish they’d blow those bloody screens up, utter waste of time.

[JD]

https://twitter.com/VillaPaddy/status/1657453614481195009?t=FUYhynPp_udK9TTKTC7uuw&s=19

What's the difference?

One has Harry Kane, pet of the Sky 6 and glorious England captain, the other doesn't.

Exactly. I've just been speaking to my Spurzzzz supporter Brother in US and he agreed that it was not a penalty. In fact he went as far to say that he is getting sick of Kane going down any time anyone goes near him.

He is not happy with Spurzzz at all but at least had to decency to agree that the far superior team won.   

[Somniloquism]

https://twitter.com/VillaPaddy/status/1657453614481195009?t=FUYhynPp_udK9TTKTC7uuw&s=19

What's the difference?

One has Harry Kane, pet of the Sky 6 and glorious England captain, the other doesn't.

Spurs fan on that twitter stated ball was out of play. When pointed out contact was made with Watkins before ball was out of play the same as the ball would have gone out if Kane hadn't fallen, then changed his excuse that Spurs Keeper made no contact with Watkins.

[eamonn]

Ian Wright seemed dubious about our highline and how we're playing with fire.
Edit - see that it has its own thread.

[eamonn]

Good to see Richarlison obliterate his record of having a decent game whenever I watched him. Had 9 touches before being hauled off today.

Finally  all these years on, Agbonlahor's nine touches, including two kick-offs, in a game at White Hart Lane under Big 'Eck has been repaid.

[ROBBO]

Slow it down and the sequence goes, Kane gets to the ball first, the goalie parries the ball awaw and then Kane falls over the goalie. Emi was motionless when Kane fell over him. bad decision.

[LeonW]

What makes me question the application here is as follows: the onfield referee doesn’t award a penalty. VAR then intervenes. So the threshold has to be high as a ‘clear and obvious’ error. If it takes them 5 minutes to decide it’s a penalty it’s not clear and obvious.