Kits 23/24

[Drummond]

Heck will have existing relationships with Nike, because they are the kit manufacturers in the NBA. They signed an 8 year deal starting 2017-2018 and took over from Adidas, so he'll have some links there too you'd think.

Adidas is an obvious link because of our owner, but also because we're shaping up to be the next big thing and they like to be involved. Heck was involved with New York Red Bulls sales and marketing when they signed up with Adidas to do their kits 10 years ago........

[Risso]

Here's the podcast where Bardell and Tanswell talk about it.

The talk about the kit is round the 40 minute mark.

A few things they say:

It's a 'big' company.
The kits are designed already, which are really nice according to somebody who's seen them. Apart from the badge.
They'll be cheaper than the kits this year
They say a 'new' company, which some people have taken to mean a young company like Gymshark. I think they just mean new as in a change to Castore.

[pauliewalnuts]

Yeah I just listened to it and agree on that interpretation.

Although I’ll believe the cheaper bit when I see it.

Worth listening to the whole thing as Dan Bardell is very scathing on the Heck badge issue.

[Villan82]

Yeah I just listened to it and agree on that interpretation.

Although I’ll believe the cheaper bit when I see it.

Worth listening to the whole thing as Dan Bardell is very scathing on the Heck badge issue.

Good.

[darren woolley]

I hope it's Adidas.

[Risso]

Yeah I just listened to it and agree on that interpretation.

Although I’ll believe the cheaper bit when I see it.

Worth listening to the whole thing as Dan Bardell is very scathing on the Heck badge issue.

I also liked his quotes on the whole Fans Advisory Board issue. He said that it was only really the bloke from MOMS who asked the club any difficult questions and that's there's no real consulation going on. Backs up the feelings I have that it's mainly filled with people a bit in awe of being asked to sit in a meeting room at Villa Park, and are scared to put their head above the parapet in case they don't get invited in future.

[AV84]

I like a Hummel kit, but I doubt very much they pay the most.

Depends on how much our stock has risen this season. Castore were presumably giving us the best deal most recently. We might be more attractive to Nike or Adidas now than we were 2 seasons ago, but it's possible we're still worth more to a brand like Hummel.

[pablo_picasso]

Yeah I just listened to it and agree on that interpretation.

Although I’ll believe the cheaper bit when I see it.

Worth listening to the whole thing as Dan Bardell is very scathing on the Heck badge issue.

I also liked his quotes on the whole Fans Advisory Board issue. He said that it was only really the bloke from MOMS who asked the club any difficult questions and that's there's no real consulation going on. Backs up the feelings I have that it's mainly filled with people a bit in awe of being asked to sit in a meeting room at Villa Park, and are scared to put their head above the parapet in case they don't get invited in future.

That happened at Villa Talk with that Krulak chap.

Difficult questions were not welcomed, even though you were having a difficult conversation with the chap via pm that he was fairly honest & open in.

But they certainly did not want to lose that golden goose access & saw him as a huge coup for the site...

[LeeB]

I like a Hummel kit, but I doubt very much they pay the most.

Depends on how much our stock has risen this season. Castore were presumably giving us the best deal most recently. We might be more attractive to Nike or Adidas now than we were 2 seasons ago, but it's possible we're still worth more to a brand like Hummel.

We need to at some point (I think we are anyway) look past the money upfront and work the exposure angle. Forget city centre shops, millions of people worldwide use Nike and Adidas apps to buy their shit, I'm not sure about Hummel, Castore, Gola or whoever but I'm pretty sure that's not the case with any of them.

[Dogtanian]

I like a Hummel kit, but I doubt very much they pay the most.

Depends on how much our stock has risen this season. Castore were presumably giving us the best deal most recently. We might be more attractive to Nike or Adidas now than we were 2 seasons ago, but it's possible we're still worth more to a brand like Hummel.

We need to at some point (I think we are anyway) look past the money upfront and work the exposure angle. Forget city centre shops, millions of people worldwide use Nike and Adidas apps to buy their shit, I'm not sure about Hummel, Castore, Gola or whoever but I'm pretty sure that's not the case with any of them.

Yes, as people have said, it's your branding. The name we have on our kit affects how others see us and we have to partner with the right brands.

[Sexual Ealing]

I'm hoping for Hi-Tec, Slazenger or Fruit of the Loom.

[Simon Page]

Is Sergio Tacchini still a thing.

[AV82EC]

Is Sergio Tacchini still a thing.

Apparently yes….

https://www.80scasualclassics.co.uk/track-tops-c26/sergio-tacchini-orion-track-top-sky-blue-white-p13767/s169633?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=sergio-tacchini-orion-track-top-size-xl-size-xl-0012450504&utm_campaign=product%2Blisting%2Bads&cid=GBP&glCurrency=GBP&glCountry=GB&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiA-vOsBhAAEiwAIWR0TasWDrpVqP0q0M_oW65ELHK7urD1aagu-x-gt93Co26lJf3PeO2H8BoCxYMQAvD_BwE

[Drummond]

I like a Hummel kit, but I doubt very much they pay the most.

Depends on how much our stock has risen this season. Castore were presumably giving us the best deal most recently. We might be more attractive to Nike or Adidas now than we were 2 seasons ago, but it's possible we're still worth more to a brand like Hummel.

We need to at some point (I think we are anyway) look past the money upfront and work the exposure angle. Forget city centre shops, millions of people worldwide use Nike and Adidas apps to buy their shit, I'm not sure about Hummel, Castore, Gola or whoever but I'm pretty sure that's not the case with any of them.

They do, and Nike and Adidas push their stuff to the other outlets in a way that the other brands can only dream of.

[LeeB]

I'm hoping for Hi-Tec, Slazenger or Fruit of the Loom.

If you were in anyway market savvy you could see we've got our official footwear partner there with Hi-Tec, our sports casual and terry toweling sock partner with Slazenger and official t-shirt to just be worn under a jumper if it's a bit cold partner with the 'Loom.

Still leaves us open to a mega-offer from Spall for the kits themselves.