Season Tickets

[Lsvilla]

How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.

Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.

Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.

At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.

Yes, I'd call that a disaster.

“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.

Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.

My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.

Might be because of the ...annual income box in the survey he ticked.

Could be. He's retired with a tidy pension but what he would put as income on such a form I've no idea.

[Nev]

Wasn't the original premise that it was for existing ST holders to purchase to enhance their matchday experience? Adding the inducements that they have would say that they misread the market.

Either way the genie is now out of the bottle and in the name of progress the Holte will never be the same again.

[dave.woodhall]

There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to who's even contacted or not. Either way, the ill-feeling and suspicion it's aroused surely outweighs the income generated.

[Risso]

There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to who's even contacted or not. Either way, the ill-feeling and suspicion it's aroused surely outweighs the income generated.

Not when it comes to accounting and FFP it doesn't. I take your point, but even if this is the badly thought out disaster that people think, there are still going to be thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list and this won't change that. People are obviously very against this, but if they get a call tomorrow, is that ill feeling going to stop them accepting a season ticket if offered one?

[dave.woodhall]

There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to who's even contacted or not. Either way, the ill-feeling and suspicion it's aroused surely outweighs the income generated.

Not when it comes to accounting and FFP it doesn't. I take your point, but even if this is the badly thought out disaster that people think, there are still going to be thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list and this won't change that. People are obviously very against this, but if they get a call tomorrow, is that ill feeling going to stop them accepting a season ticket if offered one?

If you mean at queue-jumping rates then a few on here seem to have turned it down on principle. We have a choice - accept the Americanisation of football or walk away. Violence, bad conditions, police brutality and Billy McNeill didn't manage it but forty thousand passive consumers clapping along to Hi Ho Silver Lining looks like it might.
 

[VillaTim]

My mate Andy is circa 3000 on the list and has not had the invite. I'm a current ST holder and had the invite ? seems odd

[Risso]

There seems to be no rhyme nor reason as to who's even contacted or not. Either way, the ill-feeling and suspicion it's aroused surely outweighs the income generated.

Not when it comes to accounting and FFP it doesn't. I take your point, but even if this is the badly thought out disaster that people think, there are still going to be thousands of people on the season ticket waiting list and this won't change that. People are obviously very against this, but if they get a call tomorrow, is that ill feeling going to stop them accepting a season ticket if offered one?

If you mean at queue-jumping rates then a few on here seem to have turned it down on principle. We have a choice - accept the Americanisation of football or walk away. Violence, bad conditions, police brutality and Billy McNeill didn't manage it but forty thousand passive consumers clapping along to Hi Ho Silver Lining looks like it might.
 

But that misses the point that thousands will still accept a normal season ticket when offered. And while they still do, they'll carry on as before.

[Nev]

I was drinking with a ST holder on the morning of the Wolfs game away from home. He'd been called the day before about TV and the person from the Club that is wasn't popular at all. He could easily afford it but turned it down. He attends with some of his family, who were not in the same financial position so saw no point in buying access to somewhere they couldn't.

[pauliewalnuts]

How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.

Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.

Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.

At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.

Yes, I'd call that a disaster.

“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.

Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.

My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.

He's missed his e-mail then as people 30,000 on the list have been offered it.

Again, you do not know that.

They'll have access to much more sophisticated marketing tools than just approaching people on the list.

[dave.woodhall]

I was drinking with a ST holder on the morning of the Wolfs game away from home. He'd been called the day before about TV and the person from the Club that is wasn't popular at all. He could easily afford it but turned it down. He attends with some of his family, who were not in the same financial position so saw no point in buying access to somewhere they couldn't.

I think that's a massive point. For many people going down the match is as much a social event as a sporting one and if you're effectively spending two hours on your own you might reconsider.

As Risso alluded to, though, there is still huge demand and I would imagine that many of them are the the kind of supporters the club now want.

[Risso]

As Risso alluded to, though, there is still huge demand and I would imagine that many of them are the the kind of supporters the club now want.

We've got some of the best owners in the game, but even so we're all just walking wallets to be relieved of our hard earned. And it's different to any other industry in the world, and they almost cannot lose. You could have a trendy new restaurant with a 6 month wait for a table, but if you got in and the food and service were shit, you wouldn't go back. With football, we'll all be there, come what may. And if a few take a moral stand and don't, well in this new world they won't be missed by the powers that be, at all.

Just wait till the winners of the Premier League Summer Series start to get a place in Europe...

[Clampy]

A mate of mine is on the waiting list and he hasn't seen an email either and he said no straight away when I asked him if would have taken it up.

[alan_clarke]

I'm circa 11,000 on the waiting list and got offered a Villa Terrace seat on the 17th July. Won't be taking it up.

[VillaTim]

As Risso alluded to, though, there is still huge demand and I would imagine that many of them are the the kind of supporters the club now want.

Just wait till the winners of the Premier League Summer Series start to get a place in Europe...

Didn't Chelsea win it ?

[chrisw1]

How is it clearly a disaster? Based on people getting marketing calls?

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a mistake and way over priced for what you get, and that they should have improved the offering across the board.

Not quite sure it is any kind of disaster for them, though.

Well, as I understand it they have now failed to sell it to season ticket holders, failed to sell it to 30,0000 people on the waiting list and they are now trying to sell it to randoms who have previously bought tickets to any old game.

At the same time they have compromised the season ticket waiting list, alienated fans, closed the upper holte for ticket sales for the Everton game and reduced facilities for the majority which will hit catering sales.

Yes, I'd call that a disaster.

“As I understand it” does not mean clearly. We have no idea how many people on the list they’ve asked.

Well they've asked everyone as randoms not on the list are now being offered the ticket.

My mate who's number 5000 or thereabouts on the list tells me he hasn't been approached at all.

He's missed his e-mail then as people 30,000 on the list have been offered it.

Again, you do not know that.

They'll have access to much more sophisticated marketing tools than just approaching people on the list.

Right, and what sophisticated tool have they used to approach my 17 year old daughter but randomly not someone at 5,000 on the list?