Season Tickets

[aj2k77]

Look at Leicester PL champions, few years on. Championship. It can happen

Happened over a course of years and with no investment in players compared to what was leaving. Not a bad season. You talk shit.

[pauliewalnuts]

The club want the one off day trippers who spend more money than ‘we’ do all season. The type who rock up once a year as a family of four, all buy a shirt, get in the stadium when the doors open and buy the food.

We take the PL for granted and dont see it as the global phenomenon that it is. Its bucket list for lots of people globally.

I do the same when I watch my NFL team in the US. The regulars drink their own beer and grill burgers in the car park, I buy £15 beers in the stadium and spend hundreds in the club shop.

Get used to it and if you have a season ticket, keep hold of it, it’s only going to get worse as the overseas market requires our seats at a price we won’t or can’t pay.

I don't think it is about wanting a certain type of fan over another, it's about them maximising revenue, however they do it.

It is basic economics around scarcity, unfortunately - they have 30,000 people waiting in a queue for the right to give them several hundreds pounds in advance, to attend every league game.

They know they can whack the prices up, and they are.

[VillaTim]

It is what it is , I only renewed this season because of Emery .

[dave.woodhall]

What's happening at Villa is happening all over the Premier League. It started with Manchester United,  then Liverpool, the other big London clubs plus West Ham and now it's hitting us. Newcastle will be next. If demand exceeds supply and the demand just happens to in many cases be better off than your existing customers the answer is obvious - you chase the money. Expand the corporates, encourage the families. Tell your supporters it has to happen for progress; exploit their loyalty. If you want to see what it'll be like in five years time, look at the NFL now.
 

[VillaTim]

How much is it to go to the NFL ?

[Gareth]

What's happening at Villa is happening all over the Premier League. It started with Manchester United,  then Liverpool, the other big London clubs plus West Ham and now it's hitting us. Newcastle will be next. If demand exceeds supply and the demand just happens to in many cases be better off than your existing customers the answer is obvious - you chase the money. Expand the corporates, encourage the families. Tell your supporters it has to happen for progress; exploit their loyalty. If you want to see what it'll be like in five years time, look at the NFL now.

100% agree Dave….as you say it’s obvious where we are heading, for me it’s exactly why there is next to zero investment put into concourses, toilet facilities etc…they want long term fans to give up going to bring in new wave….nothing to do with Barney Rubbles tedious working class diatribes…it’s about reducing those with expectations & history to attract more who are grateful to be allowed to attend.

[andrew08]

How much is it to go to the NFL ?

Depends who you follow. I follow the Packers who have a waiting list like us. The season ticket holders can sell their tickets in the market. Face value is around £100 but will typically sell for double or treble  that.

I suspect that a lot of season tickets holders dont actually go anymore as they are elderly, but sell their tickets for vast profit. I would say when I visit up to a third of the crowd are ‘day trippers’ in a season ticket holders only crowd and when I went to see us play the Dallas Cowboys last season a large minority of the crowd was cowboys fans. A bit like how it would be if we could tout to Man U or Liverpool fans for several hundreds pound for our seats… people would take the money.

[VillaTim]

How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price

[pauliewalnuts]

How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price

That is effectively touting.

[VillaTim]

How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price

That is effectively touting.

is that illegal though ? its only what happens at concerts and what the likes of Viagogo etc do anyway ?

[pauliewalnuts]

How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price

That is effectively touting.

is that illegal though ? its only what happens at concerts and what the likes of Viagogo etc do anyway ?

It doesn't really matter if it is illegal or not, the club get to decide how people can resell their product, and I entirely understand why they might not want to see people coining it in on tickets.

I don't see how it even benefits anyone but the person selling the seat - the scheme the club operate isn't perfect, there's obviously a 'take' in it for them and rules re when you can and can not do it, but it's better than the sort of toutery Viagogo engage in.

EDIT I just googled, and strictly speaking, it is illegal, yes.

[dave.woodhall]

How come they are allowed to do that in the US yet we cant here ? We used to with Viagogo and you could set your own resale price

That is effectively touting.

is that illegal though ? its only what happens at concerts and what the likes of Viagogo etc do anyway ?

There's a specific law covering touting at football.

[VillaTim]

Thank you for clarifying,  i just wondered the difference between the US and UK on reselling/touting football tickets

[Flin5tone]

Clearly they can't shift the super expensive seats as they are desperately hunting down anyone who's ever bought a ticket to buy a terrace view pass ,so  your NFL comparison it's not the same. We are Villa not Man Utd and we do not have that type of support. I'd say half the waiting list just clicked a button for free to join and the other half aren't rich and would fancy a season ticket at the right price and if it suited.

A more realistic comparison... Tourists / fans are very likely to go camp nou spend loads in the club shop, buy lots of food and drink (not beer as it's banned) and go all out .  This would not happen at let's say Valencia(our level of club) as there's just not the pull like the giant clubs get.

London clubs have an advantage because of tourism , Villa simply do not attract that fan and believe me it will show on the dark cold nights in January when we have a bigger stadium and like with our current stadium nobody can be arsed for a night game and we don't sell out we will end up with 10k empty seats.

DON'T TAKE US FOR GRANTED

[ChicagoLion]

A little ray if sunshine.