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[Brend'Watkins]

I don’t have a problem with the concept of introducing a range of different packages, in order to broaden our supporter base, and ultimately increase income. I also wouldn’t have a problem with introducing different packages into specific areas of the ground, if we weren’t selling out, and they were empty. However, we are selling out, and I don’t think  that the Holte is the right area for this to happen anyway. The Holte is largely a social phenomenon that has grown organically. There is clearly a risk that they will interfere with and damage it. Much better for this stuff to happen in expanded areas of the ground, without displacing people.

You're right. Upgrade other areas of the ground if you must but by and large the people who populate the Holte do so, not for comfort as such but to be part of the fan base that gets behind the team as a mass unit. As you say, it's organic.  Back in the mid 70's it was only the back that really generated the noise, now, it's all of it.  Improve the facilities is all that was needed in the Holte.  I hope this Terrace View thing is a complete flop and I think it will be. 

It's hard to see how the idea generated. Maybe all this data they've generated over the years brought them to the idea.  Age/income/history of attending etc made them think it's a goer.     

[dave.woodhall]

I don’t have a problem with the concept of introducing a range of different packages, in order to broaden our supporter base, and ultimately increase income. I also wouldn’t have a problem with introducing different packages into specific areas of the ground, if we weren’t selling out, and they were empty. However, we are selling out, and I don’t think  that the Holte is the right area for this to happen anyway. The Holte is largely a social phenomenon that has grown organically. There is clearly a risk that they will interfere with and damage it. Much better for this stuff to happen in expanded areas of the ground, without displacing people.

You're right. Upgrade other areas of the ground if you must but by and large the people who populate the Holte do so, not for comfort as such but to be part of the fan base that gets behind the team as a mass unit. As you say, it's organic.  Back in the mid 70's it was only the back that really generated the noise, now, it's all of it.  Improve the facilities is all that was needed in the Holte.  I hope this Terrace View thing is a complete flop and I think it will be. 

It's hard to see how the idea generated. Maybe all this data they've generated over the years brought them to the idea.  Age/income/history of attending etc made them think it's a goer.     

it was the result of the survey they did:
 
Do you want better wifi, catering and bar facilities?
Would you like somewhere to sit down before and after the match?
Do you want shorter queues at half-time?
Do you want to pay £25 a match for it?*



*One of these questions may not have been asked. 

[Pat McMahon]

I don’t have a problem with the concept of introducing a range of different packages, in order to broaden our supporter base, and ultimately increase income. I also wouldn’t have a problem with introducing different packages into specific areas of the ground, if we weren’t selling out, and they were empty. However, we are selling out, and I don’t think  that the Holte is the right area for this to happen anyway. The Holte is largely a social phenomenon that has grown organically. There is clearly a risk that they will interfere with and damage it. Much better for this stuff to happen in expanded areas of the ground, without displacing people.

You're right. Upgrade other areas of the ground if you must but by and large the people who populate the Holte do so, not for comfort as such but to be part of the fan base that gets behind the team as a mass unit. As you say, it's organic.  Back in the mid 70's it was only the back that really generated the noise, now, it's all of it.  Improve the facilities is all that was needed in the Holte.  I hope this Terrace View thing is a complete flop and I think it will be. 

It's hard to see how the idea generated. Maybe all this data they've generated over the years brought them to the idea.  Age/income/history of attending etc made them think it's a goer.     

I think you are both spot on in your comments, and this could really dilute the Holte atmosphere. When I logged on to get my Everton ticket last week there wasn’t a single ticket in the upper Holte, my preferred part of the ground.  Serves me right for not forking out £1500 for the terrace view experience.

[VillaTim]

For every corporate area they shoehorn in , a few decibels of atmosphere will be lost . They need to be careful , or perhaps they don't care

[mike]

Look at Leicester PL champions, few years on. Championship. It can happen

I am clinically depressed, I come from Birmingham so I’m a natural pessimist, l am currently experiencing a bad run of random bad stuff happening to me, my son has put numerous ‘hilarious’ autocorrects on my phone, such as my name turning into idiot, but I am still not as miserable or cynical as this bloke is on an average day.

[Flin5tone]

Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.

The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.

We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.

Football for the working class

[VillaBoy_23]

Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.

The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.

We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.

Football for the working class

This issue is, you’re so insufferably negative on a daily basis that it’s as if you want us to do badly and not progress as a club.

[astonvilla82]

Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.

The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.

We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.

Football for the working class

This issue is, you’re so insufferably negative on a daily basis that it’s as if you want us to do badly and not progress as a club.

Was going to comment but haven't got the energy anymore

[RamboandBruno]

Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.

The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.

We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.

Football for the working class

In all the diatribe there are some points I can sometimes agree with, but as another poster has said, the constant negativity is just draining.

And what do you actually mean by the working class?? Do you mean the diverse liw income communities living round by Villa Park who have never gone to the football, or felt able to? I tend to think your romanticising a version of white working class culture that largely doesn’t exist anymore.

[Flin5tone]

every day people or families on normal/average incomes especially families , imagine the cost for a family of 4 /5 . It's becoming out of reach for many.

[Dogtanian]

Please stop all jumping on the bandwagon and having a pop at 'The Flin'. I was just using it as an example , IF we were to get relegated these current trend supporters would soon drop off, as would they if we finished 17th consistently.

The club are playing a dangerous game and I wholeheartedly agree with the supporters trust statement recently put out.

We aren't a big enough club to act like this, just look at the support for us today, I think I've seen more other club shirts in the stands than Villa ones. We are very much a local club still , with fans coming from the Midlands and a fan base that's very delicate but obviously big in number but not wealthy or stupid enough to buy a terrace view package , that's why they are scrambling around looking for someone to buy in. It's been an absolute disaster for the club and I'm delighted it has.

Football for the working class

I’m working class and you in no way represent me.

[pauliewalnuts]

Your problem, Fin5tone, is that you're like the boy who cried wolf.

You moan on and on making the same point on the same issues for so long, that people just stop listening to you.

Then one day, you make a valid point but guess what, nobody cares because it's diluted by the ongoing 24/7 whine-fest you insist on,

[VillaTim]

Where i sit if i took the Mrs and 2 of the kids i'd be looking at £272 for a Cat A game plus all the other expenses

[andrew08]

The club want the one off day trippers who spend more money than ‘we’ do all season. The type who rock up once a year as a family of four, all buy a shirt, get in the stadium when the doors open and buy the food.

We take the PL for granted and dont see it as the global phenomenon that it is. Its bucket list for lots of people globally.

I do the same when I watch my NFL team in the US. The regulars drink their own beer and grill burgers in the car park, I buy £15 beers in the stadium and spend hundreds in the club shop.

Get used to it and if you have a season ticket, keep hold of it, it’s only going to get worse as the overseas market requires our seats at a price we won’t or can’t pay.

[N'ZMAV]

the owners are making up for the no-shows during covid