Season Tickets

[VillaTim]

I'm pretty sure Man Utd were placing 1 game league bans on ST holders who did not attend home cup games at one stage a few years ago , no idea if they still do that , literally treating their fans with contempt

[Bad English]

there was one who said we should stop complaining and if you can't afford it someone else will.

I hate this sort of attitude. ******!

[amfy]

Sorry to repeat myself from yesterday but I don't get this £30 cap for away fans but fleece the home fans rotten. It's so contradicting and just some sort of token gesture that is odd

The answer to that you have to have paid out for home games to be an away fan at most clubs. So the away ticket price for any fan is on top of these extortionate home ticket prices.

[VillaTim]

Sorry to repeat myself from yesterday but I don't get this £30 cap for away fans but fleece the home fans rotten. It's so contradicting and just some sort of token gesture that is odd

The answer to that you have to have paid out for home games to be an away fan at most clubs. So the away ticket price for any fan is on top of these extortionate home ticket prices.

Didn't this come about after a coordinated fan backlash from across lots of clubs ? Was it twenties plenty campaign which ironically is now thirty

[SoccerHQ]

Could we really sell out a 52k ground with 40-50 quid ticket prices and being 14th in the league with no cup runs?

Yes.

The thing is, we are criticising the club for being such money grabbing fuckers, but then also doubting their financial acumen in that if the above wasn't true, we wouldn't be making the ground bigger.

It's not good, it's too expensive, but from a business point of view, they know what they are doing, and building a new stand to have half the seats empty does not fit with that.

It's basic economics, we've got 30,000 people in a queue waiting for the right to spend several hundreds of pounds on a season ticket. That's scarcity and it winds up with raised prices.

If you look at other clubs, would we have thought, ten years ago, that West Ham could ever get 60k every home match? Or Spurs for that matter?

For decades now, the club has been run in an unambitious, plodding along way. Even under Lerner, when he spent big, we never bothered doing things like employing clued-up people with relevant experience, we didn't have a clue.

We have so much untapped potential, and this is the first time in my lifetime we've really looked like approaching fulfilling it. We even managed to win the league and the EC and end up in division two five years later, that's how badly this club has been run through the ages.

Spurs have been in europe pretty much every season since 2009 so that's helped them market the club to a wider fanbase for well over a decade.

If they'd built the 62k ground when they weren't even finishing top 6 in the 2000s I doubt they'd have been close to filling it. Only have to look at Arsenal getting sub 50k crowds at end of Wenger era (and during Unai's time) even if they kept on hilariously announcing it as 60k.

I get the potential aspect but we're coming from a long way down after the horrific management in the 2000s and 2010s.

Only 32k came to watch us v Stevenage a few months back. Now I get it was Stevenage and we'd just played Wolves, New year etc but ultimately if we really had thousands locked out for prem matches they could've just come to see the first game on our unstoppable path to FA cup glory....

Or it was a case of 35k fans suddenly didn't fancy paying extra for unattractive game and I think that will continue to be a problem as would imagine the europa games will be price at higher rates than FA cup 3rd round weekend and Thursday night is certainly more of an awkward time to get to VP than Sunday afternoon.

It's quite interesting the Stevenage crowd being so low when Everton got 39k at home to Boreham Wood in Feb 2022 as one example from recent times. That was a midweek game aswell.

[PeterWithesShin]

Bit different having a 3rd round game and a 5th round game though.

[SoccerHQ]

I mentioned the price rises on Twitter. Most replies were of the same opinion as me but there was one who said we should stop complaining and if you can't afford it someone else will. That's football - pay up and keep quiet.

The "twenty is plenty" campaign showed when all fans come together and actually agree on something relative change can happen (even if the cap was eventually 30 quid but that's not too bad in the present climate considering away prices were heading past 50 quid even a decade ago).

Think you've referenced that a few times Dave but it's that tribalism element that so often stops Football actually treating its fans....sorry customers with some acknowledgment of their continual commitment.

FA cup in a year or two going to a pretty much midweek competition is yet another kick in the teeth that could perhaps be stopped if there was aligned fan engagement.

[SoccerHQ]

Bit different having a 3rd round game and a 5th round game though.

Ironically Everton had next to no interest in the FA cup that tear, think they put out a reserve side in the next round at Palace a week or two later and lost 4-0.

I'd be surprised if we sold out the europa group games tbh (play off should be o.k as that's the crucial one). Not like we're going to be playing huge names at that stage when you look at who West Ham were playing so I await the demand with interest.

[VillaTim]

I baulked at the league cup final the other year v Ci£y as the only ticket left was £150 . I heard that some non corporate FA Cup final tickets this year were £250 !!! The price of success !! It's not just villa it's endemic in the elite game

[RamboandBruno]

Bit different having a 3rd round game and a 5th round game though.

What is this 5th round you refer to?

[Flin5tone]

I pointed this out at the time and on many occasions

If villa fans were that desperate for a slice of the action every game would have sold out, if there's that much demand . The club opened up the away section upper tier a couple of times and it failed to sell. Yes they made it awkward to buy but if the famous waiting list was that interested the tickets would fly .

Looking at the players we have at our disposal l currently I'd say 7th again would be a massive achievement. Those prices are unrealistic for a club that's been poor for a very long time. You'd expect that on the back of winning the Champions League, not qualifying for a 3rd tier European tournament.

It will be VERY interesting to see the take up for a low level European fixture in the winter months if we can't even sell out against Manchester City in December.

You'll price out the loyal working class and then they might just not return when we inevitably at some stage, end up in the shit again

[Ads]

There are about 361 Terrace View/Season Ticket packages left. Gives and indication of take up if you can recall the total amount, maybe about 100? 150?

[Dogtanian]

I thought the thing had a capacity of 1,000 people?

[chrisw1]

There's a guy on Twitter confirming he's signed up to the Terrace View for £1,560.  He was over 7k on the waiting list last June.  He doesn't seem sure if he has full ST renewal rights or not.

Someone else said they called hospitality and asked and were told if you take it up you lose your position on the main waiting list, plus you cannot relocate in future.

It seems an absolute farce, the club don't seem to know what they're selling and people don't seem to know what they're buying.  I reckon loads of people would pay £1.5k as a one off to get a permanent ST.  I hope this isn't what the club is doing. 

Apparently, approx 300 were made available, which suggests less than 700 of the fans who 'asked for this in their feedback' actually wanted it.

[VillaTim]

There are about 361 Terrace View/Season Ticket packages left. Gives and indication of take up if you can recall the total amount, maybe about 100? 150?

Where is the seat for that package, is it just a random seat in the Holte End Upper or are they all sat together in say a central location ? Or is the package a bolt on to the existing ST (if you had one ?)