Season Tickets

[artvandelay]

If we take Liverpool as an example, they're largely cheaper than us too, despite having had bigger capital expenditure on the ground and a waiting list of decades to get season tickets https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/season-ticket-prices

It's £780 for most of the Holte compared to £745 for the Kop. Also every category allows for concessions. I think we'll need to see a consistent improvement in the on pitch performance to continue justifying these kind of price hikes

[Dogtanian]

If we take Liverpool as an example, they're largely cheaper than us too, despite having had bigger capital expenditure on the ground and a waiting list of decades to get season tickets https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/season-ticket-prices

It's £780 for most of the Holte compared to £745 for the Kop. Also every category allows for concessions. I think we'll need to see a consistent improvement in the on pitch performance to continue justifying these kind of price hikes

Prices are cheaper up north though.

[Drummond]

This is on the back of sneaking into the 3rd tier European competition (not complaining at all fantastic season) but imagine of we get champions league.

It's all wrong and the club have completely lost all sense of reality

Erm, I reckon your pots are vantablack.

[Dogtanian]

This is on the back of sneaking into the 3rd tier European competition (not complaining at all fantastic season) but imagine of we get champions league.

It's all wrong and the club have completely lost all sense of reality

Erm, I reckon your pots are vantablack.

To be fair, you can’t lose what you never had.

[VillaTim]

If we take Liverpool as an example, they're largely cheaper than us too, despite having had bigger capital expenditure on the ground and a waiting list of decades to get season tickets https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/season-ticket-prices

It's £780 for most of the Holte compared to £745 for the Kop. Also every category allows for concessions. I think we'll need to see a consistent improvement in the on pitch performance to continue justifying these kind of price hikes

Prices are cheaper up north though.

we are up north. Its more expensive in London

[RamboandBruno]

I'd prefer my season ticket to be cheaper, I'm glad away tickets and the European away tickets are capped. Its an expensive hobbie and our exceptionalism that we're different from others is probably part of the anger- we're not. We just had low demand and high supply. Man City are a poor example because of this.

We have to be cautious as we are not north or west London and don't have anything like the tourist draw of Man United or Liverpool.

The only way these prices stabilise or drop is if demand does. This increases the value of the season ticket and will make selling 40,000 in 2 years an absolute inevitability; one way to protect your hundred million capital works investment.

I dont buy the class issue though. Absolute bilge.

This is a good analysis.

Whilst i take Fred’s (never ending) comments about pricing the working class out of going to games, it is a flawed argument, not least because it seems like its based on one distinct version of what it is to be working class. I would say there are plenty of lower income groups in society that are both financially but also culturally disenfranchised from football, not least many of those living around villa park.

Nevertheless, the direction of travel in regards to pricing, will inevitably knock a lot of out of the game in the mid to long term.

[Dogtanian]

If we take Liverpool as an example, they're largely cheaper than us too, despite having had bigger capital expenditure on the ground and a waiting list of decades to get season tickets https://www.liverpoolfc.com/tickets/season-ticket-prices

It's £780 for most of the Holte compared to £745 for the Kop. Also every category allows for concessions. I think we'll need to see a consistent improvement in the on pitch performance to continue justifying these kind of price hikes

Prices are cheaper up north though.

we are up north. Its more expensive in London

There’s more north up north.

[astonvilla82]

Perhaps why those clubs can keep the price down is because they have in place multi-million  pound shirt sponsorships deals, Liverpool and Manchester United are worth about £50 million a year each

[purpletrousers]

Looks like family packages on match day tickets and STs are a thing of the past also, am I wrong?

If you’ll indulge me, I’ve just added on sale dates to my electronic calendar, essential if I’m to have a hope in hell of picking up an extra Tkt/together, to have hope of getting both my little ones there.
Downside is where I used to search villa park in my diary to bring up home fixtures (including changes) that’s now flooded with all the onsale dates;

any top tips for an easy over view to show home fixtures inc dates changed for TV? Is the club site reliably updated with date/time changes, I have a memory it wasn’t at some point last season?

[SoccerHQ]

While we are oversubscribed where ticket demand is concerned I believe there is a limit to how deep that demand is. We can attract "new" fans and tourists but this the West Midlands, not London and we also don't get the hype and exposure that Newton Heath and Stockport City receive.

Introducing premium pricing and semi-corporate areas on the Holte will puncture the atmosphere and it will never recover. The ground just won't be the same and that's a terrible shame.

It may be progress, it's certainly inevitable but it's going to leave an awful lot of us behind I'm afraid.

Yep.

Very soon we'll have a 52k ground. As much as it's annoying to say we simply haven't got a Newcastle type support in that we'd have 52k turning up every week if we were 17th as opposed to 7th or higher.

Perhaps I'm wrong but this pricing shift feels very short term thinking to me.

Go back 5 years and we were getting 30-35k in the championship which was of course pretty respectable but long way from selling out.

Then we employ DS, Grealish gets going, we win endless games in a row and suddenly 40k are watching us get promoted and like seeing a winning Villa team again.

19/20 and the prem actually felt interesting for us for first time in a decade so that was always going to be a season of regular sell outs regardless of marketing and price rises.

Then lost over a year due to covid so 21/22 was simply about people experiencing live sport again.

I genuinely would've been interested to see how our attendances would've held up last season if we'd continued in bottom half by appointing a manager not as good as Emery so it's important to remember we're not too many poor strategic decisions again from being bottom half.

Could we really sell out a 52k ground with 40-50 quid ticket prices and being 14th in the league with no cup runs?

That's the issue as we've been on a consistent rise for last 5 years but eventually it gets difficult to get much higher in the league unless plenty of things come together at the right time so that's the big question mark from 2025 onwards.

I just pick and choose now and tend to get to 5-6 home games a season so not as impacted as many others. We could easily have that number of home games in the cups up to December so interested how full VP looks on those nights given they won't be covered by season tickets.

[SoccerHQ]

Cat A games where we sit if i wanted to take one of my younger kids or grandkids i'd be staring into £68 a ticket . That seems very unfair. Not that fairness comes into this.
I'd like to see which part of the fan consultation suggested this madness.

The Steven Gerrard fanclub a.k.a Mr Purslow.

I think this was his last act before leaving.

[SoccerHQ]

I don't care what the club says, we are getting mugged and you only need to look over to the continent to see it.

That's not really comparing apples to apples, though is it? How about comparing us to the teams that finished top 8 in the league last year, as that's where we aspire to be regularly. 

As recently as 2019 I went to an Arsenal game and sat behind the goal in home end (My Mum supports them) and paid £36.50. Upper tier was 60 odd quid but a) London and b) they'd won plenty under Wenger.

Man. City isn't that dear at all for what they've produced on the pitch in last decade.

Pretty sure Newcastle tickets have been very cheap with most in 30-40 quid range although interesting to see how significantly that shoots up now they're in the CL.

That's the thing though. It was a very good end to last season but we did only finish 7th. These prices are now starting to emulate clubs who are finishing top 4 in four out of every five seasons and winning a trophy every two seasons so bit of pressure on us to step up now with no guarantee it will work out.

[N'ZMAV]

these are prices where you expect to be winning trophies

[pauliewalnuts]

Could we really sell out a 52k ground with 40-50 quid ticket prices and being 14th in the league with no cup runs?

Yes.

The thing is, we are criticising the club for being such money grabbing fuckers, but then also doubting their financial acumen in that if the above wasn't true, we wouldn't be making the ground bigger.

It's not good, it's too expensive, but from a business point of view, they know what they are doing, and building a new stand to have half the seats empty does not fit with that.

It's basic economics, we've got 30,000 people in a queue waiting for the right to spend several hundreds of pounds on a season ticket. That's scarcity and it winds up with raised prices.

If you look at other clubs, would we have thought, ten years ago, that West Ham could ever get 60k every home match? Or Spurs for that matter?

For decades now, the club has been run in an unambitious, plodding along way. Even under Lerner, when he spent big, we never bothered doing things like employing clued-up people with relevant experience, we didn't have a clue.

We have so much untapped potential, and this is the first time in my lifetime we've really looked like approaching fulfilling it. We even managed to win the league and the EC and end up in division two five years later, that's how badly this club has been run through the ages.

[astonvilla82]

Compare prices to the like of Bruce Springsteen and Pink concerts and many musicians and add refreshments I would say football is fairly cheap to them