Quote from: pauliewalnuts on April 27, 2023, 10:10:19 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 27, 2023, 06:16:50 PMIt seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.That’s not right. We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there. They seem to be just looking at the match-going supporter, and not going for commercial opportunities.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 27, 2023, 06:16:50 PMIt seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.That’s not right. We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there.
It seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.
Quote from: dave.woodhall on April 27, 2023, 10:17:23 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on April 27, 2023, 10:10:19 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 27, 2023, 06:16:50 PMIt seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.That’s not right. We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there. They seem to be just looking at the match-going supporter, and not going for commercial opportunities. said to the brother about commercial activity, now we are getting noticed, sponsors will be looking and thinking, this Aston Villa Football Club seems to going places, what about investing now before they really take off, Manchester United shirt deal is approximately 47 million a year for 5 years and that's just to have the name on the front of the shirt
Quote from: astonvilla82 on April 28, 2023, 08:00:13 AMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 27, 2023, 10:17:23 PMQuote from: pauliewalnuts on April 27, 2023, 10:10:19 PMQuote from: dave.woodhall on April 27, 2023, 06:16:50 PMIt seems to me that we've gone back to the old days of getting more money from the same amount of people rather than getting money from more people. At least Doug pretended to have our interests at heart; this lot just see us as 40,000 cash machines.That’s not right. We’re - with the new north and the consistent current sell outs - surely getting more money from more people?I understand the concerns about this lot but if have them above Ellis under absolutely any criteria out there. They seem to be just looking at the match-going supporter, and not going for commercial opportunities. said to the brother about commercial activity, now we are getting noticed, sponsors will be looking and thinking, this Aston Villa Football Club seems to going places, what about investing now before they really take off, Manchester United shirt deal is approximately 47 million a year for 5 years and that's just to have the name on the front of the shirtA progressive smart CEO would be focusing on these arrangements not on fleecing the match going supporters.Purslow knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
Quote from: FrankyH on April 24, 2023, 07:29:33 PMI know the club needs to operate as a business , but Gate receipts are now far less important when you factor in TV money. If I was being cynical , I would think the club want the new tourist supporter spending shit loads of money in the club shop, club bars and other money making ventures. It's far easier to fleece money from a day tripping tourist than a regular who brings their own flask of tea ! ( I have seen this, don't know how they get that past the stewards)Don't think the club have read the room very well on this one. The worrying thing is , if genuine long time supporter make the tough decision that they can't afford it , their ticket will , I'm sure , be snapped up. If that happens the club can continue to raise prices at the current steep rate. I know we are business and are subject to supply and demand forces , but there's a cost of living crisis and a lot of people have had to alter their spending accordingly. It all adds up. 40K people all paying £300 more is £12m a year.
I know the club needs to operate as a business , but Gate receipts are now far less important when you factor in TV money. If I was being cynical , I would think the club want the new tourist supporter spending shit loads of money in the club shop, club bars and other money making ventures. It's far easier to fleece money from a day tripping tourist than a regular who brings their own flask of tea ! ( I have seen this, don't know how they get that past the stewards)Don't think the club have read the room very well on this one. The worrying thing is , if genuine long time supporter make the tough decision that they can't afford it , their ticket will , I'm sure , be snapped up. If that happens the club can continue to raise prices at the current steep rate. I know we are business and are subject to supply and demand forces , but there's a cost of living crisis and a lot of people have had to alter their spending accordingly.
Imagine if they had organised decent catering and the ability to buy a drink look at the money they are failing to collect every match day.But lets nail another Cazoo billboard to the Trinity, its like the Harry Hill Beds Beds Beds sketch.
The absolutely infuriating thing about all this is they send out these surveys , we say we want better facilities (most of us just want simplicity and speed)….
And I’ll bet my kidneys that absolutely nobody asked for the Lion to face the other fucking way.
I haven't seen it mentioned elsewhere on this thread so apologies if I have missed it, but to add insult to the injury of the price hike for STs, I've also lost my seat, along with a hundred or so others in the last four rows of L4, which have been commandeered for the accessibility "upgrades" in the Lower Holte. The way the club has handled this (i.e. tumbleweed) has been nothing short of disgraceful. No prior consultation with those affected and I, at least, have as yet to receive ANY communication on the matter whatsoever. I heard the news at the Fulham game from others around me who had contacted the ticket office to renew their season tickets only to be told that they wouldn't be able to, and that someone from the club would be in touch to discuss options - no other information was forthcoming. I called the ticket office yesterday to be told the same thing. As yet, still no contact from the club. It feels as if the club has thought, well, there's only a hundred or so affected, so only a tiny percentage of the fanbase to piss off, but to us in that area, many of whom have had season tickets for years (I've had that seat for the past 9 years), or even decades, it feels like the club doesn't really give a toss about fans actually attending games (other than trying to find more ways of relieving them of their cash through their crappy "gentrification" initiatives), and for those who've had season tickets for longer than the last 4 seasons since we returned to the PL, this is how we're repaid for our loyalty for the largely utter shite we've endured over the past decade or so. Our little L4 "community" is getting broken up, and that's the saddest part of the whole situation - THAT'S our match-day experience, not all the fanzone bollocks, GA+ facilities, etc. that Villa are peddling now, but I guess that doesn't bring in what the club wants, which is more and more money. Sadly, my love of the club, and "elite" football in general, has been further diminished by this experience (so far).
It's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.
Quote from: Flin5tone on April 27, 2023, 08:41:30 PMThe absolutely infuriating thing about all this is they send out these surveys , we say we want better facilities (most of us just want simplicity and speed)….We’re told that the club have listened and have acted on the survey results. I’m not sure about anyone else, but when I filled in the questionnaire I never asked for a £500 quid a year members’ club in the Holte or a 15% hike in tickets. And I’ll bet my kidneys that absolutely nobody asked for the Lion to face the other fucking way.
Quote from: Risso on April 28, 2023, 11:31:08 AMIt's a shame for anybody being forced to move, but you know, disabled fans deserve decent facilities and the ability to watch the game too.Absolutely, that's not the point thoughThose supporters in L4 that are being moved , many who have been there for years should be looked after. The way they have gone about it is disgusting and shows they do not care AT ALL
Quote from: Chico Hamilton III on April 28, 2023, 10:29:14 AMQuote from: Flin5tone on April 27, 2023, 08:41:30 PMThe absolutely infuriating thing about all this is they send out these surveys , we say we want better facilities (most of us just want simplicity and speed)….We’re told that the club have listened and have acted on the survey results. I’m not sure about anyone else, but when I filled in the questionnaire I never asked for a £500 quid a year members’ club in the Holte or a 15% hike in tickets. And I’ll bet my kidneys that absolutely nobody asked for the Lion to face the other fucking way. When I queried the reversing lion I was told that "everyone" had previously had no problem with it.
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