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Offline AV84

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9075 on: August 23, 2023, 02:58:17 PM »

This is all assuming there is any animosity there…it’s just as possible that there is an amicable agreement negotiated between club / player / agent in place for a replacement triggering a move etc.
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Was just going to say the same. Whatever is going on it seems like there's no animosity. It's tabloid gold when a player is having a strop, we'd know about it if there was any kind of bad blood here.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9076 on: August 23, 2023, 04:35:49 PM »
There doesn't need to be animosity.

I just don't see why its Villa who always have to make the compromise.

"Oh, Digne is homesick after spending nearly a decade in England, can he have a loan to a French club for a year please? We will have the same problem again in a year, but if we kick the can down the road, Im sure we can work something out once his contract has nearly run out, so you get a pittance back from what you paid for him... Oh, & btw, the only club he can find in France that wants him cant afford his wages. Be a good chap & cover them for us wont you?"

Not exactly helping our FFP situation...

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9077 on: August 23, 2023, 04:39:05 PM »
For all we know a family member could be seriously ill and Digne wants him and his family to be closer to them for however long is left, and Villa are helping him do that. There's any number of reasons rather than he's just a bit homesick.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9078 on: August 23, 2023, 04:43:05 PM »
Unlikely to be homesickness when he's been away from France as long as he has.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9079 on: August 23, 2023, 04:45:28 PM »
I'm not keen on losing Aaron Ramsey, Archer and PDB in the same window, but the fees quoted and apparent buy back clauses make sense. But honestly, I feel we still needed a few names in and big earners like Phil and Digne to leave rather than ship out too many of our academy players who would have been very useful in the cup competitions.

We're going to need to rotate. We've already got gaps to fill with long-term injuries. I'd written off Bertie, but I wonder if he's got a reprieve. Again, frustrating as he is, his unpredictable talents could be useful in some games (particularly European).

I know quality is better than quantity, but we don't wanna leave ourselves short. Archer would score for fun in the Conference.

At what point too, do you lose your heartbeat? Among all the eye-catching signings, it's still great to see youngsters blooded in and given minutes. And yep, obviously FFP has to be a consideration. Are we likely to see any academy players in the first team this season, if the likeliest candidates have all been moved on? I think you can have aspirations to step up a level and still find room for 3-4 youngsters. Pep and Howe are doing it. Ten Hag is likely to blood in a few.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9080 on: August 23, 2023, 04:47:17 PM »
Could be worse, imagine being a fan of Chelsea where they've bought a whole new team in the summer and sold the old one. Apart from Rom, obvs. Good luck shifting him.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9081 on: August 23, 2023, 04:50:46 PM »
I'm not keen on losing Aaron Ramsey, Archer and PDB in the same window, but the fees quoted and apparent buy back clauses make sense. But honestly, I feel we still needed a few names in and big earners like Phil and Digne to leave rather than ship out too many of our academy players who would have been very useful in the cup competitions.

We're going to need to rotate. We've already got gaps to fill with long-term injuries. I'd written off Bertie, but I wonder if he's got a reprieve. Again, frustrating as he is, his unpredictable talents could be useful in some games (particularly European).

I know quality is better than quantity, but we don't wanna leave ourselves short. Archer would score for fun in the Conference.

At what point too, do you lose your heartbeat? Among all the eye-catching signings, it's still great to see youngsters blooded in and given minutes. And yep, obviously FFP has to be a consideration. Are we likely to see any academy players in the first team this season, if the likeliest candidates have all been moved on? I think you can have aspirations to step up a level and still find room for 3-4 youngsters. Pep and Howe are doing it. Ten Hag is likely to blood in a few.

The fee for Ramsey is poor.

Bournemouth just paid £20m for Alex Scott from Bristol City & he has scored 5 goals & 7 assists in 83 appearances by the age of 20 years old.

Last season alone, Ramsey scored 8 & assisted 4 in 29 appearances by the age of 20.

Everything else, I fully agree...

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9082 on: August 23, 2023, 04:52:14 PM »
For all we know a family member could be seriously ill and Digne wants him and his family to be closer to them for however long is left, and Villa are helping him do that. There's any number of reasons rather than he's just a bit homesick.

Ok, thats a fair point.

But at what stage do we start looking out for ourselves a bit more?

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9083 on: August 23, 2023, 04:53:26 PM »
For all we know a family member could be seriously ill and Digne wants him and his family to be closer to them for however long is left, and Villa are helping him do that. There's any number of reasons rather than he's just a bit homesick.

Ok, thats a fair point.

But at what stage do we start looking out for ourselves a bit more?

I hope in a scenario like that we never do.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9084 on: August 23, 2023, 04:55:05 PM »
I'm not keen on losing Aaron Ramsey, Archer and PDB in the same window, but the fees quoted and apparent buy back clauses make sense. But honestly, I feel we still needed a few names in and big earners like Phil and Digne to leave rather than ship out too many of our academy players who would have been very useful in the cup competitions.

We're going to need to rotate. We've already got gaps to fill with long-term injuries. I'd written off Bertie, but I wonder if he's got a reprieve. Again, frustrating as he is, his unpredictable talents could be useful in some games (particularly European).

I know quality is better than quantity, but we don't wanna leave ourselves short. Archer would score for fun in the Conference.

At what point too, do you lose your heartbeat? Among all the eye-catching signings, it's still great to see youngsters blooded in and given minutes. And yep, obviously FFP has to be a consideration. Are we likely to see any academy players in the first team this season, if the likeliest candidates have all been moved on? I think you can have aspirations to step up a level and still find room for 3-4 youngsters. Pep and Howe are doing it. Ten Hag is likely to blood in a few.

The fee for Ramsey is poor.

Bournemouth just paid £20m for Alex Scott from Bristol City & he has scored 5 goals & 7 assists in 83 appearances by the age of 20 years old.

Last season alone, Ramsey scored 8 & assisted 4 in 29 appearances by the age of 20.

Everything else, I fully agree...
I suppose the buyback clauses may dip the fee from some of the crazier fees going on unproven kids. Or the crazy fees Brighton are charging Chelsea. lol.

All told, I'd be a lot more disappointed if we started selling our star players.

Offline pablo_picasso

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9085 on: August 23, 2023, 05:00:52 PM »
For all we know a family member could be seriously ill and Digne wants him and his family to be closer to them for however long is left, and Villa are helping him do that. There's any number of reasons rather than he's just a bit homesick.

Ok, thats a fair point.

But at what stage do we start looking out for ourselves a bit more?

I hope in a scenario like that we never do.

No, you're right.

I suppose it all depends on the actual scenario that is happening.

But, I do want the club to start being more club oriented in situations that aren't family illness/death type ones, etc.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9086 on: August 23, 2023, 05:03:18 PM »
I agree, I have no idea why he wants to move, just putting a reason out there as it strikes me that after 7 years playing abroad a personal reason seems more likely than him being homesick.

Offline caster troy

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9087 on: August 23, 2023, 05:03:25 PM »
I'm not keen on losing Aaron Ramsey, Archer and PDB in the same window, but the fees quoted and apparent buy back clauses make sense. But honestly, I feel we still needed a few names in and big earners like Phil and Digne to leave rather than ship out too many of our academy players who would have been very useful in the cup competitions.

We're going to need to rotate. We've already got gaps to fill with long-term injuries. I'd written off Bertie, but I wonder if he's got a reprieve. Again, frustrating as he is, his unpredictable talents could be useful in some games (particularly European).

I know quality is better than quantity, but we don't wanna leave ourselves short. Archer would score for fun in the Conference.

At what point too, do you lose your heartbeat? Among all the eye-catching signings, it's still great to see youngsters blooded in and given minutes. And yep, obviously FFP has to be a consideration. Are we likely to see any academy players in the first team this season, if the likeliest candidates have all been moved on? I think you can have aspirations to step up a level and still find room for 3-4 youngsters. Pep and Howe are doing it. Ten Hag is likely to blood in a few.

The fee for Ramsey is poor.

Bournemouth just paid £20m for Alex Scott from Bristol City & he has scored 5 goals & 7 assists in 83 appearances by the age of 20 years old.

Last season alone, Ramsey scored 8 & assisted 4 in 29 appearances by the age of 20.

Everything else, I fully agree...
I suppose the buyback clauses may dip the fee from some of the crazier fees going on unproven kids. Or the crazy fees Brighton are charging Chelsea. lol.

All told, I'd be a lot more disappointed if we started selling our star players.

Talking from experience (on Football Manager) that is definitely how it works. Burnley effectively have a ceiling on what they can get for Ramsey now if he goes on to become a world beater. If Scott has a good season who knows what Chelsea will pay for him next summer.

Offline N'ZMAV

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9088 on: August 23, 2023, 05:17:48 PM »
buy backs in place, makes sense - however, probably approaching £35mil+ for 3 players that have 0 PL starts between them, all in their 20's - is probably good business.... if they was that good, they'd be more active in the team. I trust Emery.

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Re: 2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.
« Reply #9089 on: August 23, 2023, 05:26:19 PM »
I appreciate this is in the wrong thread, but it is transfer based.  After the game tonight, could one commentator or journalist, do their fecking job and press Unai on incoming players please? 

 


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