2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.

[pauliewalnuts]

Assuming Mings is out for a while, we need three players at least before the end of August.

We still have Torres and Carlos for LCB and Carlos, Konsa and Chambers for RCB. I'd keep Chambers. Getting another option at RB was a must at the end of last season and is still a bigger priority now.

I’d disagree, we have lost the organiser and the one who attacks the ball…unless Torres or Carlos can take on those roles we are vulnerable in the key position because Konsa is and never has been capable of either role.

This is absolutely correct.

I'd also add that on top of his organisational duties at the back, he's an immense figure for the rest of the team.

He's basically Petrovian.

[AV84]

I thought people were over confident about today and this was always going to be a really hard game. Granted I didn’t think we’d completely give up and ship five, but a loss was always on the cards.

The Mings injury is a huge blow and is massively disruptive, but if we can navigate through it I can absolutely see us having 6 points from 9. Not easy, but entirely possible, and then things will look a lot better.

Yeah, I felt like a draw would have been a really good result for us if we could have got it. Losing didn't surprise me, but the way in which we did it was extremely disappointing. I said it in the match thread though, it was so extraordinarily bad that it has to have been an anomaly. It might matter at the end of the season if its between us and Newcastle for whatever place finish, but for now it's just one to forget about and move on.

[Risso]

Our worst ever Premier League era opening day result apparently.

[pauliewalnuts]

It's pretty amazing after the global licking of our ringpiece and puff pieces in the press everywhere of late, we're already into "don't watch MOTD or any football coverage" territory on weekend one.

[AV84]

Our worst ever Premier League era opening day result apparently.

Have we had many worse results at any point of the season in the Premier League?

[Risso]

Our worst ever Premier League era opening day result apparently.

Have we had many worse results at any point of the season in the Premier League?

Yes of course we have, literally dozens. Did you start supporting us last year?

[edgysatsuma89]

Just ask Lambert.

[AV84]

Our worst ever Premier League era opening day result apparently.

Have we had many worse results at any point of the season in the Premier League?

Yes of course we have, literally dozens. Did you start supporting us last year?

No, I just don't carry a list of results around in my brain. I remember 8-0 to Chelsea, and a 6-0 Liverpool hiding, and that's about it.

[PeterWithesShin]

It's not even our worst result at SJP in the PL.

[curiousorange]

A couple of results to Southampton spring to mind. There was that one under Lambert where they shredded us their first season back, and the record-breaking Mané hat-trick.

[Risso]

Our worst ever Premier League era opening day result apparently.

Have we had many worse results at any point of the season in the Premier League?

Yes of course we have, literally dozens. Did you start supporting us last year?

No, I just don't carry a list of results around in my brain. I remember 8-0 to Chelsea, and a 6-0 Liverpool hiding, and that's about it.

7-1 Chelsea. 6-1 Man City when we came back up. 6-0 Newcastle after O'Neill buggered off. 6-1 Southampton before the FA Cup final under Dim Tim. Quite a few 5-0 games, eg Blackburn away (with Savo spitting).

[Toronto Villa]

We’ve taken more than our fair share of batterings. But it happens to pretty much every team with the exception of those cheating wankers Man City.

[curiousorange]

It's not even our worst result at SJP in the PL.

Ouch, yeah. 8 days after we trollied West Ham on the opening day.

[pauliewalnuts]

Our worst ever Premier League era opening day result apparently.

Have we had many worse results at any point of the season in the Premier League?

Yes of course we have, literally dozens. Did you start supporting us last year?

Yeah.

I went to my first match when i was about 8, so 47 years ago.  In that time, I genuinely think about 30% of those matches, there was not one single redeeming feature in how we played.

That's probably not far off about 500 matches.

Today was one of the most depressing first days of the season ever (although 86-7 was the worst for me), but I can think of redeeming features - Diaby looked quality. There's one.

So, what I guess I mean is, the bar has been set so unbelievably low, that you'd really struggle to suggest that even today's bucket of sloppy shit was anything like the depths to which we have previously sunk.

[pauliewalnuts]

Our worst ever Premier League era opening day result apparently.

Have we had many worse results at any point of the season in the Premier League?

Yes of course we have, literally dozens. Did you start supporting us last year?

No, I just don't carry a list of results around in my brain. I remember 8-0 to Chelsea, and a 6-0 Liverpool hiding, and that's about it.

7-1 Chelsea. 6-1 Man City when we came back up. 6-0 Newcastle after O'Neill buggered off. 6-1 Southampton before the FA Cup final under Dim Tim. Quite a few 5-0 games, eg Blackburn away (with Savo spitting).

That midweek match at home to Man City (not even Abu Dhabi rich cheat Man City, actual old, proper, shit Man City) when they beat us 5-0 (under Venglos I think) and David White scored at least 4 of them, and possibly all 5.