2023 Summer transfer window - hopes, needs, expectations and rumours.

[Clark W Griswold]

You can buy a beer in Florida, wear want you want, women can dress how they want, go out alone, drive and own a car, you can worship wherever you want. There are LGBT communities in every city with bars and clubs operating without restrictions etc etc
Yes Just like Saudi.

I'm talking about human rights violations and you're talking about buying beer, so probably not on the same wavelength on this one.

I think buying a beer is a human right.

I think you mentioned more than just beer as well, which seems to have been overlooked in the general car crash of an attempt to seem in some way superior.

[ChicagoLion]

You can buy a beer in Florida, wear want you want, women can dress how they want, go out alone, drive and own a car, you can worship wherever you want. There are LGBT communities in every city with bars and clubs operating without restrictions etc etc
Yes Just like Saudi.

I'm talking about human rights violations and you're talking about buying beer, so probably not on the same wavelength on this one.

I think buying a beer is a human right.

I think you mentioned more than just beer as well, which seems to have been overlooked in the general car crash of an attempt to seem in some way superior.

When people say something really stupid and keep trying to back it up, this is where it unravels.

[villadelph]

You can buy a beer in Florida, wear want you want, women can dress how they want, go out alone, drive and own a car, you can worship wherever you want. There are LGBT communities in every city with bars and clubs operating without restrictions etc etc
Yes Just like Saudi.

I'm talking about human rights violations and you're talking about buying beer, so probably not on the same wavelength on this one.

I think buying a beer is a human right.

I think you mentioned more than just beer as well, which seems to have been overlooked in the general car crash of an attempt to seem in some way superior.

When people say something really stupid and keep trying to back it up, this is where it unravels.

Liberate Miami!

[Simon Page]

Build a wall. And make DeSantis pay.

[ChicagoLion]

You can buy a beer in Florida, wear want you want, women can dress how they want, go out alone, drive and own a car, you can worship wherever you want. There are LGBT communities in every city with bars and clubs operating without restrictions etc etc
Yes Just like Saudi.

I'm talking about human rights violations and you're talking about buying beer, so probably not on the same wavelength on this one.

I think buying a beer is a human right.

I think you mentioned more than just beer as well, which seems to have been overlooked in the general car crash of an attempt to seem in some way superior.

When people say something really stupid and keep trying to back it up, this is where it unravels.

Liberate Miami!

That’s what the Cuban boat people are trying, it’s just an attempt to bring the Liberal Freedoms and Democracy from Cuba to Florida.

[Risso]

Look at any liberalism/freedom/repression index. Saudi Arabia is near the bottom on all of them.

[Simon Page]

Should it really be footballers taking the moral stance anyway? It's like expecting the UK government to start improving our set pieces rather than negotiating arms deals to the Saudis.

[AV84]

The responses to me questioning the US human rights record has proved my original point. I'm not going to be responsible for people having to wade through 10 more pages of the transfer thread only to discover none of it is about transfers. So I'm out.

[Matt C]

Bild in Germany reporting we’ve made a new bid for Diaby.

[Footy-Vill]

It's all sports people.
As I say Football will go same as golf and boxing the stars will start to go to the league over there.
Prenier league have a very real competitior on their hands

[AV82EC]

The responses to me questioning the US human rights record has proved my original point. I'm not going to be responsible for people having to wade through 10 more pages of the transfer thread only to discover none of it is about transfers. So I'm out.

It hasn’t but enjoy taking your ball home because people have the temerity to disagree with you.

[Footy-Vill]

Bild in Germany reporting we’ve made a new bid for Diaby.

Thanks!
Fantatsic.  Hopefully this is the one that comes through now.
I think it's just agreeing the fee.
Bailey and Diaby showed up together very well and this is something that could be replicated here.
Great news!
Up The Villa!

[Clark W Griswold]

Bild in Germany reporting we’ve made a new bid for Diaby.

Thanks!
Fantatsic.  Hopefully this is the one that comes through now.
I think it's just agreeing the fee.
Great news!
Up The Villa!

Nah, we'll be gazumped by Saudi.

[RamboandBruno]

I like to think that if I were a top class player at the tail end of my career and with millions already in the bank that i'd either publically tell them to go fuck themselves, or take their money. And then use every penny they paid me from day one to support LGBT causes around the world.

This is the thing that really bugs me. Everyone they're signing is already set up for life, unless they've been really stupid with their money. So the lure of 25 million for a year, or whatever it is, should not be enough to make already very wealthy people throw away all moral reasoning.

That said, there's a lot of countries around the world with very questionable human rights records these days. The US, for example, is an awful place for many people at the moment, but we don't seem to judge it the same way when people do business with them. People praising Messi for going to Miami, of all places, over Saudi, is really bar on the floor stuff.

No, it's not. It's filled with a bunch of people who don't travel enough to realize how fortunate they are. Often occupied by first world problems, these people who claim its an "awful" place have never been anywhere awful. Turn off your television, this comment is ridiculous.

I imagine if you're an economically deprived teenager carrying an unwanted pregnancy in one of many states, it is pretty awful right now.

Any developed democracy is going to be awful for some sections of society, including the UK.

Just because somewhere else is more awful, it doesn't help those people.

Pretty much agree with this. Not comparing parts of the US and Saudi at all, but there is huge poverty in some parts of the US.

I guess if you haven’t got a home to live in, not enough food to eat, no access to free healthcare, no prospect of any of that getting better, then i guess your country being one of, if not the wealthiest nation on earth, is pretty meaningless really.

But anyway….hopefully Villa buy another couple of players soon.

[olaftab]

The trouble is that China is a normal* country. They had to screw the lid because the economics became mental and they ultimately had to account for all the spending. Saudi Arabia is a rogue state that knows its wealth is fleeting and massive, and they have an appetite for gaudy, vulgar, excessive consumption. They won't get bored for a long time.

*It's obviously not 'normal' by western democratic standards, but they have to pay the bills in a way the Saudis just don't.

👏👏👏lovely post my friend. You forgot to say that Saudi’s are basically ******.