Project B6

[algy]

I agree with "when you're smiling". It's a catchy tune, has no offensive words so the kids can join in and the last line "the Holte End smiles with you" can be belted out at full pitch.

Agree, but I do think we're actually in a pretty good place on the song stakes - HEITS is obviously & uniquely ours, we're the only proper club that sings the Jeff Beck one and, although it's stolen, we have the most coherent and therefore best version of Allez Allez Allez.

Then, on the sidelines, you've got TBAR (my favourite), the under-sung really slow version of amazing grace/Viiiiiiillllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaa, the non-kid friendly MOMS, Paul McGrath my lord (probably over-sung, but supporters from other clubs have mentioned that it's quite distinctively one of our songs), ...

 I'm struggling to think of many clubs that have the same repertoire of fairly original songs which aren't about specific, contemporary players. The ugly sisters from Glasgow are the only ones that stick in my mind, and I'm not sure they could play all of theirs over a tannoy system!

[frankmosswasmyuncle]

I agree with "when you're smiling". It's a catchy tune, has no offensive words so the kids can join in and the last line "the Holte End smiles with you" can be belted out at full pitch.

Agree, but I do think we're actually in a pretty good place on the song stakes - HEITS is obviously & uniquely ours, we're the only proper club that sings the Jeff Beck one and, although it's stolen, we have the most coherent and therefore best version of Allez Allez Allez.

Then, on the sidelines, you've got TBAR (my favourite), the under-sung really slow version of amazing grace/Viiiiiiillllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaa, the non-kid friendly MOMS, Paul McGrath my lord (probably over-sung, but supporters from other clubs have mentioned that it's quite distinctively one of our songs), ...

 I'm struggling to think of many clubs that have the same repertoire of fairly original songs which aren't about specific, contemporary players. The ugly sisters from Glasgow are the only ones that stick in my mind, and I'm not sure they could play all of theirs over a tannoy system!

Great stuff, both! And fully agree....we have a pretty good repertoire already, we just need to galvanise ourselves into united action...the singing is always better away from home and on Saturday was almost non existent....bit then I am in the Trinity these days!

And I think there's a natural reluctance isn't there? Or perhaps it's because we're almost all slightly grumpy/overly modest Villa fans/Brummies, that as soon as you ask people to join in with an organised thing, we try to resist it?

[Risso]

With the best will in the world, 40,000 people on the whole aren't going to be creating a cauldron of noise in a drab encounter against a nothing team like Crystal Palace, and that's the same at every team in the country. Play well and provide some entertainment and you can guarantee the crowd will react. The crowd can be on their feet and making a load of noise and there's no guarantee the other way round from the team. The main onus is on the players.

[Brend'Watkins]

With the best will in the world, 40,000 people on the whole aren't going to be creating a cauldron of noise in a drab encounter against a nothing team like Crystal Palace, and that's the same at every team in the country. Play well and provide some entertainment and you can guarantee the crowd will react. The crowd can be on their feet and making a load of noise and there's no guarantee the other way round from the team. The main onus is on the players.

Agree.  VP is as passionate as any crowd when the occasion merits it and yes C Palace is a drab encounter that isn't going to get the pulses racing where there is little at stake. Given that their home fans are lauded as the most vociferous home fans in the country with their faux Ultra image their away following certainly didn't live up to the image.  Maybe they were just CP fans who like football and can't be arsed with trying to look all fashionably gang Italian and maybe that's the way they like it.

[LeeB]

It's funny because many a team turn up at Villa Park and you barely hear a squeek outside of their goals, yet our away support has always been very vocal in comparison to others.

That's the way it should be, you're away, it's against the odds, they need our support.

At home, we should be beating teams like bad dogs for the temerity of turning up and using our facilities.

[dave.woodhall]

The best atmospheres are always spontaneous.

[Nev]

I was surprised, but not altogether upset, that the Palace fans lacked colour and noise. We were relatively quiet as well and this happens from time to time.

Since the fixtures came out I've been looking forward to Forest at home on Easter Saturday, it will be a sell out, on a BH weekend, first time they have played us at VP in the top flight for 20 years so has all the makings of a cracking atmosphere. Of course it could and up as flat as a witches tit but I think that largely depends on the football.

[hipkiss92]

I agree with "when you're smiling". It's a catchy tune, has no offensive words so the kids can join in and the last line "the Holte End smiles with you" can be belted out at full pitch.

Agree, but I do think we're actually in a pretty good place on the song stakes - HEITS is obviously & uniquely ours, we're the only proper club that sings the Jeff Beck one and, although it's stolen, we have the most coherent and therefore best version of Allez Allez Allez.

Then, on the sidelines, you've got TBAR (my favourite), the under-sung really slow version of amazing grace/Viiiiiiillllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaa, the non-kid friendly MOMS, Paul McGrath my lord (probably over-sung, but supporters from other clubs have mentioned that it's quite distinctively one of our songs), ...

 I'm struggling to think of many clubs that have the same repertoire of fairly original songs which aren't about specific, contemporary players. The ugly sisters from Glasgow are the only ones that stick in my mind, and I'm not sure they could play all of theirs over a tannoy system!

Great stuff, both! And fully agree....we have a pretty good repertoire already, we just need to galvanise ourselves into united action...the singing is always better away from home and on Saturday was almost non existent....bit then I am in the Trinity these days!

And I think there's a natural reluctance isn't there? Or perhaps it's because we're almost all slightly grumpy/overly modest Villa fans/Brummies, that as soon as you ask people to join in with an organised thing, we try to resist it?

As long as there's a pause in the songs for some old bloke to tell Emi to lump it up the field when we're passing around at the back, we should be OK.

[Drummond]

I was surprised, but not altogether upset, that the Palace fans lacked colour and noise. We were relatively quiet as well and this happens from time to time.

Since the fixtures came out I've been looking forward to Forest at home on Easter Saturday, it will be a sell out, on a BH weekend, first time they have played us at VP in the top flight for 20 years so has all the makings of a cracking atmosphere. Of course it could and up as flat as a witches tit but I think that largely depends on the football.

I think it all depends on where you sit in the ground. I was in C8 on Saturday (lower Trinity near North Stand) and could hear Palace pretty well. Was in K1 against Leeds and couldn't hear a jot from them. Was in the Lower North against Wolves and the noise was reasonable from them.

Ultimately, when the whole of Villa Park is in full voice there's nothing quite like it, it just doesn't happen that often because there haven't been enough big fixtures to help generate it.

[brian green]

I make my grandchildren shout it.

[Nev]

I was surprised, but not altogether upset, that the Palace fans lacked colour and noise. We were relatively quiet as well and this happens from time to time.

Since the fixtures came out I've been looking forward to Forest at home on Easter Saturday, it will be a sell out, on a BH weekend, first time they have played us at VP in the top flight for 20 years so has all the makings of a cracking atmosphere. Of course it could and up as flat as a witches tit but I think that largely depends on the football.

I think it all depends on where you sit in the ground. I was in C8 on Saturday (lower Trinity near North Stand) and could hear Palace pretty well. Was in K1 against Leeds and couldn't hear a jot from them. Was in the Lower North against Wolves and the noise was reasonable from them.

Ultimately, when the whole of Villa Park is in full voice there's nothing quite like it, it just doesn't happen that often because there haven't been enough big fixtures to help generate it.

Fair comment, I'm in K7 on the Holte, I might as well be up a tree in Aston Park.

[Drummond]

I was surprised, but not altogether upset, that the Palace fans lacked colour and noise. We were relatively quiet as well and this happens from time to time.

Since the fixtures came out I've been looking forward to Forest at home on Easter Saturday, it will be a sell out, on a BH weekend, first time they have played us at VP in the top flight for 20 years so has all the makings of a cracking atmosphere. Of course it could and up as flat as a witches tit but I think that largely depends on the football.

I think it all depends on where you sit in the ground. I was in C8 on Saturday (lower Trinity near North Stand) and could hear Palace pretty well. Was in K1 against Leeds and couldn't hear a jot from them. Was in the Lower North against Wolves and the noise was reasonable from them.

Ultimately, when the whole of Villa Park is in full voice there's nothing quite like it, it just doesn't happen that often because there haven't been enough big fixtures to help generate it.

Fair comment, I'm in K7 on the Holte, I might as well be up a tree in Aston Park.

I like to move about a bit and get the different perspectives, when I had a season ticket in K4 I had a consistent picture of the noise and who was louder and when, rather than the differing sound I get by moving.

Saturday's fayre was hard to get the crowd going, there wasn't enough sustained pressure to keep it going and the referee wasn't shit enough (or making enough contentious decisions) to get it going either. I do think the referee can often get the Villa Park crowd more animated.

[dave shelley]

As long as there's a pause in the songs for some old bloke to tell Emi to lump it up the field when we're passing around at the back, we should be OK.

It's ok you'll be fine, I wont be there.

[pauliewalnuts]

I was surprised, but not altogether upset, that the Palace fans lacked colour and noise. We were relatively quiet as well and this happens from time to time.

Since the fixtures came out I've been looking forward to Forest at home on Easter Saturday, it will be a sell out, on a BH weekend, first time they have played us at VP in the top flight for 20 years so has all the makings of a cracking atmosphere. Of course it could and up as flat as a witches tit but I think that largely depends on the football.

Should be good but it'll never beat seeing two European Cup winners, with 3 of them between them, playing a league match outside the top flight that finishes as a 5-5 draw.

What a remarkable night that was.

[dave shelley]

I was surprised, but not altogether upset, that the Palace fans lacked colour and noise. We were relatively quiet as well and this happens from time to time.

Since the fixtures came out I've been looking forward to Forest at home on Easter Saturday, it will be a sell out, on a BH weekend, first time they have played us at VP in the top flight for 20 years so has all the makings of a cracking atmosphere. Of course it could and up as flat as a witches tit but I think that largely depends on the football.

Should be good but it'll never beat seeing two European Cup winners, with 3 of them between them, playing a league match outside the top flight that finishes as a 5-5 draw.

What a remarkable night that was.

That was the last game I attended, my birthday four years ago, brilliant entertainment despite not winning.