Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022

[paul_e]

Which games has he changed things to good effect in?

The wins have been against:

Man U
Brighton
Spurs
Leeds
Southampton
Everton
Palace

All welcome victories, but a big spread of perfomances, from excellent (Man U) through solid and workmanlike (Palace) to played quite badly, lucky to get away with it (Leeds). I can't really recall any big changes in tactics that affected any of those games though to be honest. He seems to pretty much favour his version of 4-4-2, which is fine as it's mostly working in at the moment, and as it is with our miniscule squad there's not much scope to change things up anyway.

Whi said anything about formation, and specifically the one that gets listed on websites,etc? Tactics is more than that and if you don't think we've changed our approach in some of those games then there's not much point arguing about it.

[Clampy]

Which games has he changed things to good effect in?

The wins have been against:

Man U
Brighton
Spurs
Leeds
Southampton
Everton
Palace

All welcome victories, but a big spread of perfomances, from excellent (Man U) through solid and workmanlike (Palace) to played quite badly, lucky to get away with it (Leeds). I can't really recall any big changes in tactics that affected any of those games though to be honest. He seems to pretty much favour his version of 4-4-2, which is fine as it's mostly working in at the moment, and as it is with our miniscule squad there's not much scope to change things up anyway.

I don't see the point in trying to pick faults with 7 wins. Theres always going to be one or two iffy performances when a team is trying to adjust to a different way of playing. It's just the way it is.

Edit. Just re-read your post and it seems you are on about tactics.

[eamonn]

Risso, you do rate Emery higher than Gerrard, right?!

[Risso]

Seems a bit more thought behind our performances under Emery than "look me in the eye", "they should wipe the floor with us", "we need a bit of magic from someone". Gerrard was a complete fraud who after his opening 6 games barely had us averaging a point a game for the next 32 and never beat a single team that either wasn't shit or massively out of form. He was clueless and shit. Unai isn't either.

I think the key thing to take away is that with this squad we need to wait and see. If you randomly ignore Emery's first 6 games in the same fashion as above, the only teams we've beaten are shit or massively out of form in Leeds, Southampton, Everton and Palace, so let's see how he gets on without Kamara for a few weeks.

[PeterWithesShin]

I think 32 games of being shit, and failing to beat anyone of note in all 38 is a big enough sample to make a judgement, don't you?

[Risso]

Risso, you do rate Emery higher than Gerrard, right?!

Of course I do, but my point all along has been that this squad isn't good enough for anything other than midtable. Emery is clearly a much better coach than Gerrard, but we're already seeing the same old maddening inconsistencies, week in, week out. Even if Emery gets say, 20% more out of all them, that's still not going to be enough. I think by the end of the season we'll still be 11th at best. We haven't put together two good halves of football since Man U in Emery's first game.

[Risso]

I think 32 games of being shit, and failing to beat anyone of note in all 38 is a big enough sample to make a judgement, don't you?

Indeed, and it's why he got the sack, like Smith before him. Let's just see what this squad is capable of for the remainder of this season.

[PeterWithesShin]

Hands up who had Smith getting a mention on their bingo card?

[Risso]

Hands up who had Smith getting a mention on their bingo card?

Hands up who had PWS being an arse on theirs?

[Clampy]

I'm fairly happy with how it's going and how we are playing overall and anyway, it's not just about this season, it's beyond that.

[Risso]

I'm fairly happy with how it's going and how we are playing overall and anyway, it's not just about this season, it's beyond that.

As I said after Saturday, I was happy with the result, as a workmanlike win is always better than an entertaining defeat. Overall though I don't think this squad is capable of much more and would have liked the rebuilding job to start this January. I don't think any of that is especially controversial.

[Clampy]

I'm fairly happy with how it's going and how we are playing overall and anyway, it's not just about this season, it's beyond that.

As I said after Saturday, I was happy with the result, as a workmanlike win is always better than an entertaining defeat. Overall though I don't think this squad is capable of much more and would have liked the rebuilding job to start this January. I don't think any of that is especially controversial.

I didn't say it wasn't. My post was just a general one.

[Pat Mustard]

I'm fairly happy with how it's going and how we are playing overall and anyway, it's not just about this season, it's beyond that.

As I said after Saturday, I was happy with the result, as a workmanlike win is always better than an entertaining defeat. Overall though I don't think this squad is capable of much more and would have liked the rebuilding job to start this January. I don't think any of that is especially controversial.

The accounts show that we have to be much smarter spending money than we have been in the past.  No argument that we would prefer a bigger/better squad right nowt, but if players who would truly improve the first team weren't available then this is one year when we could probably afford to wait - we are already safe, and Europe was always a long-shot from where we were. 

Clearing the decks of players who clearly aren't good enough/won't fit in ahead of a busy summer window was the right plan, plus it creates room in pre-season to get a proper look at Archer, Ramsey, Iroegbunam etc in the summer to see if they are good enough for the squad next season.

[pauliewalnuts]

He clearly doesn't think some of the players are clever enough to do what he wants them to do.

I don't think it is (as someone said) like Cash learning himself what to do in future rather than being told, if Emery does spend days preparing tactics then it's always going to be about executing what he tells them to do (although he might actually tell them to be expressive / make their own mids up in some cases).

He can't come out and name specific players for not being up to it because he's got to get a tune out of them for the rest of the season. My take is he'll say what he needs to say to keep them onside while we need them to be, and then fuck them off in the summer.

I think there is going to be a proper exodus, and we'll see him getting players of the type he likes in, players with the attributes he wants rather than players who might have been acquired because they could play the way Gerrard wanted them to.

[lovejoy]

Realistically who out of Man City, Man Utd, Liverpool, Chelsea, Arse, Tottingham and Newcastle will we finish ahead of over 38 matches? One of them having a bad season like Chelsea possibly Newcastle yes but that's 6th at best.