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Author Topic: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022  (Read 31568 times)

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #180 on: March 07, 2023, 09:48:47 AM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

Interesting in a positive sense? Are we ready to splash the cash, so to speak?

I’ve just finished work and I’m too lazy to summarise.

Haha. No problem, fella.

Thank you for posting. Will check it out this evening once I've put my incredibly rampant daughter to bed!

Well worth a listen mate. Good luck with the babby.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #181 on: March 07, 2023, 09:51:06 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.

Didn’t someone say we’re fourth since we very belatedly got rid of the incompetent scouse fraud?

Even Emery himself said there's always a new manager bounce. I think the incompetent Scouse fraud was similarly high in the table after a comparable number of games.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #182 on: March 07, 2023, 09:52:43 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #183 on: March 07, 2023, 09:54:26 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.

Rome wasn't built in a day.
Yes it took about 1000 years.
No hurry.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #184 on: March 07, 2023, 09:55:31 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.
Do we have the ability to pull off the transfers that we need to change this significantly?
I have my doubts.

Jesus Christ. 

Why are you even bothering to show an interest if it’s all that impossible?

We’ve got a big supporter base, we are currently enlarging the stadium - which is full every time we play - we’ve got an elite level manager, we have extremely wealthy ambitious owners. There is no reason we shouldn’t start to fulfil our potential.

Seriously with that sort of attitude, why bother? We are shit / we don’t have the money / we don’t turnover enough / we are unable to buy decent players / we shouldn’t try to play in Europe next season. 

Honest question - why are you bothering with all this at all if it is so doomed to failure?

I consider myself heavily on the sceptical side of the argument but you sound like you’ve just entirely given up and are revelling in the misery of it all. 

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #185 on: March 07, 2023, 09:58:39 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

It would still be a collection of mud huts on the banks of the Tiber if some Villa fans were in charge.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #186 on: March 07, 2023, 10:00:17 AM »
FFP isn't actually really about fair play it is more ring fencing for the big team making it difficult to break into their club without "doing a Man City".

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #187 on: March 07, 2023, 10:03:18 AM »
The problem is as a club, pretty much every element of the club was behind where it needed to be when NWSE bought it (obviously).

It means everything has to be improved; unfortunately, we have made quite a few mistakes which has meant it is ultimately more costly.  Like Gerrard and most of his signings, Ings, Maybe Bailey, Maybe even Beundia.  Most, if not all, of the players we have signed and have moved on are at a loss. 

We don't enter the cup competitions, and last years table finish missed out on prize money when we should be pushing on.   And match day "experience" could make a lot more money if we had better catering and staff. 

It is a long process - and that's why the continual process "approach" does actually make sense - if we get better in all the areas all the time, the revenues would follow - but we have had 2 years with a lack of progress on the pitch which probably cost us 100m, and covid which probably stopped a lot of the other improvements from happening

The only area that seems to be working well is the youth setup, to be honest - as we have a number of players that if they don't make it with Villa, will make it somewhere.  I think the club will get there, we can see that with the Unai - but we do need improvements in these other areas and continued investment so these other improvements do happen;

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #188 on: March 07, 2023, 10:07:58 AM »
We say we don’t enter the cup competitions but have been to three finals since 2010 - way more than most clubs.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #189 on: March 07, 2023, 10:11:51 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.
Do we have the ability to pull off the transfers that we need to change this significantly?
I have my doubts.

Jesus Christ. 

Why are you even bothering to show an interest if it’s all that impossible?

We’ve got a big supporter base, we are currently enlarging the stadium - which is full every time we play - we’ve got an elite level manager, we have extremely wealthy ambitious owners. There is no reason we shouldn’t start to fulfil our potential.

Seriously with that sort of attitude, why bother? We are shit / we don’t have the money / we don’t turnover enough / we are unable to buy decent players / we shouldn’t try to play in Europe next season. 

Honest question - why are you bothering with all this at all if it is so doomed to failure?

I consider myself heavily on the sceptical side of the argument but you should like you’ve just entirely given up.
Well I have seen the accounts and there is very little to be reassured about there.
I agree we have the best manager that we could hope for and he is doing as well as can be expected.
The issue is how do we get from a mid table level to challenging top 6 and this is where I have my doubts.
By my reckoning we need 5 top 6 level players and the budget for that is £250 million £300 million ? You think we are spending that?
I am still trying to work out how they spent £209 million in 1 year and look at what that bought us.
The owners great, Manager great after that I think there are a lot of problems which shows up in the accounts and the match day experience.



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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #190 on: March 07, 2023, 10:14:25 AM »
We say we don’t enter the cup competitions but have been to three finals since 2010 - way more than most clubs.
Yeah to be fair we seem to either go out very early, or get to the final

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #191 on: March 07, 2023, 10:16:21 AM »
Sometimes one player can make all the difference, like a Toney, Mitrovic or Guimaraes for example. Take away all of those from Brentford, Fulham and Newcastle, and I guarantee they'd all be lower midtable fodder again, fighting relegation.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #192 on: March 07, 2023, 10:19:18 AM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

Interesting in a positive sense? Are we ready to splash the cash, so to speak?

I’ve just finished work and I’m too lazy to summarise.

Haha. No problem, fella.

Thank you for posting. Will check it out this evening once I've put my incredibly rampant daughter to bed!

Well worth a listen mate. Good luck with the babby.

Cheers mate!

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #193 on: March 07, 2023, 10:33:34 AM »
Sometimes one player can make all the difference, like a Toney, Mitrovic or Guimaraes for example. Take away all of those from Brentford, Fulham and Newcastle, and I guarantee they'd all be lower midtable fodder again, fighting relegation.

Yes, and I feel at the minute the right player in Bailey's role could be transformative for us.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #194 on: March 07, 2023, 10:37:50 AM »
Sometimes one player can make all the difference, like a Toney, Mitrovic or Guimaraes for example. Take away all of those from Brentford, Fulham and Newcastle, and I guarantee they'd all be lower midtable fodder again, fighting relegation.

Yes, and I feel at the minute the right player in Bailey's role could be transformative for us.

Absolutely mate. A decent attacking forward to weigh in with double figures of goals and we'd be miles better. Them back that up with somebody like Guendouzi, a replacement for Konsa who can play out from the back and we'd be motoring.

 


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