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Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #165 on: March 06, 2023, 05:38:24 PM »
it looks like we paid a lot more for some of the players than has been reported.
Our revenue numbers are poor but what do you expect from the commercial, catering, merchandising and hospitality functions.
This is what a lot of people mean when challenging the big club idea when our revenues are low in comparison to so called smaller clubs.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #166 on: March 06, 2023, 09:54:06 PM »
The losses over the last five years are simply staggering and that revenue is piss poor compared to clubs above us.  And selling Joe basically stopped us being loss making last year.  This year Emi will do that.

Didn't you want us to spend another £100m in January?  ;)

I did and this is where the total irrationality of a football fan take precedent.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #167 on: March 06, 2023, 11:43:51 PM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #168 on: March 07, 2023, 01:35:02 AM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

Interesting in a positive sense? Are we ready to splash the cash, so to speak?

Offline LeonW

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #169 on: March 07, 2023, 04:30:00 AM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

Kieran Maguire is great at translating football finance. Always worth listening to.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #170 on: March 07, 2023, 07:23:42 AM »
The gist of the podcast is that without our current owners we would be now where near the premier league - and we could be another Portsmouth

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #171 on: March 07, 2023, 07:39:26 AM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

Interesting in a positive sense? Are we ready to splash the cash, so to speak?

I’ve just finished work and I’m too lazy to summarise.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #172 on: March 07, 2023, 08:50:27 AM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

Interesting in a positive sense? Are we ready to splash the cash, so to speak?

I’ve just finished work and I’m too lazy to summarise.

Wot no précis  Percy?

Fascinating podcast. Thanks for posting. 

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #173 on: March 07, 2023, 09:19:07 AM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

Interesting in a positive sense? Are we ready to splash the cash, so to speak?

I’ve just finished work and I’m too lazy to summarise.

Wot no précis  Percy?

Fascinating podcast. Thanks for posting.

No problem mate.

Offline Pat Mustard

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #174 on: March 07, 2023, 09:21:34 AM »
The gist of the podcast is that without our current owners we would be now where near the premier league - and we could be another Portsmouth

Isn't that all a bit simplistic though?  We don't operate in isolation and how many other clubs could say exactly the same thing - certainly without their current owners the likes of Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth etc. would all still be in the lower leagues (and that's before you get to the likes of Chelsea and Man City who's owners have been systematically playing the system for a decade and more now).  Also, without our previous owners we wouldn't have been in the shit to the extent we were when NWSE took over.  Not to get all arrogant, but there is a reason why we got owners like ours when there were plenty of other clubs they could have invested in.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #175 on: March 07, 2023, 09:33:18 AM »
I must admit I looked up For the Love of God podcast (for which there are many).
Kieron Maguire is very good at explaining football finances in plain English. He basically says we are reliant on our owners (given the historic losses). The profit in 2022 was off the Grealish sale (pure profit as he was an academy player) and whilst we have spent a lot too, in 2022 this was off the back of the Grealish money (the host says Ings then sold at a loss, bailey is hit and miss and Buendia now coming into his own).
There's a discussion on how clubs buy and sell on credit these days, the implication being if one defaults there will be repercussions.
He also made a good point that the comparative year 2021 is based on having 45 matches given the Covid hang over which means we aren't comparing apples with apples for revenues.
In summary he credits us with being a mid table team (fair enough) but when you look at revenues of the big 6 or 7 (as has been done on this thread) their income is often £200m+ more making it difficult to compete and that Everton tried this a few years back and it spectacularly misfired.

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go and buy a player in the transfer window .
« Last Edit: March 07, 2023, 09:51:50 AM by lovejoy »

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #176 on: March 07, 2023, 09:43:35 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #177 on: March 07, 2023, 09:46:17 AM »
Kieran Maguire on For The Love of Paul McGrath podcast tonight, talking about our accounts. Interesting listen.

Interesting in a positive sense? Are we ready to splash the cash, so to speak?

I’ve just finished work and I’m too lazy to summarise.

Haha. No problem, fella.

Thank you for posting. Will check it out this evening once I've put my incredibly rampant daughter to bed!

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #178 on: March 07, 2023, 09:46:21 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.

Didn’t someone say we’re fourth since we very belatedly got rid of the incompetent scouse fraud?

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Re: Aston Villa Group End of Year Accounts - year end May 31st 2022
« Reply #179 on: March 07, 2023, 09:46:30 AM »

Overall a fair and balanced summary and for me supports why we didn't just go snd buy a player in the transfer window .

The only way we're going to make more money is by being more successful. And to be more successful we need better players than this midtable at best squad.
Do we have the ability to pull off the transfers that we need to change this significantly?
I have my doubts.

 


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