Aston Villa 2 The Arse 4 Post Match ah well what could have been thread

[aj2k77]

A good portion of the players have been here for what is approaching a 3rd season now and we've never really broken in to the top 10. Which tells you something. Against better side we simply are nowhere near good enough and are too easy to score against. 38 goals in just 23 games. 41 defeats in 85 games with the base of the team being the same players. A near 50% lose ratio shows they simply aren't good enough.

[Nunkin1965]

And a manager who's won Europa Leagues plural with innovative, defence-first football now can't organise a defence?

So we're turning on the best keeper in the world now? Exactly which of the goals was his fault? And before anyone says the last one, every keeper comes up for that and it wasn't him who overhit the corner.

God's sake.

It's possible to admire his ability and deplore his shithousing.  Not at fault for the goals today, IMHO, but karma comes around eventually.

Sure, but it seems new to me, we seem to love it when the result goes our way.

Exactly
My guess is there were no complaints at 2-1.

[SoccerHQ]

Hopefully once Carlos isback in we'll be better but we really need defenders.

I thought the fullbacks were o.k tbh. Played their parts in our two goals and used the ball fine.

Konsa-Mings just makes too many basic errors that lead to goals and chances v this type of opposition and we've known it for nearly three years. That combination would've been broken up but for a serious injury in August and we certainly won't be playing those two together next August.

[PaulWinch again]

We are now conceding for fun at the back and not scoring enough.   Could we get sucked into it?

I doubt it. Yes Leicester wasn’t great, but they are flying, and we’ve just played the top two. Against other teams we’ll have more than enough, because we can score goals. But we’re not going to make material progress until we start being much more stable at the back. On that point, I like Moreno going forward but he gets caught wrong side/out of position a lot when defending. Teams will target that if he doesn’t improve.

[Dante Lavelli]

The most Villa thing ever is to get rid of our main striker, cope admirably up front relatively speaking only for the defence to turn to absolute shit in three games. 

Can they do that though?  If the ball is ‘in play’ i.e. in his hands, can they add time? Personally I hate the tactic but any gain is negligible if they just add it on at the end. 

[Rigadon]

Sure, but it seems new to me, we seem to love it when the result goes our way.

I can only speak for myself in saying that I don't love it at all.

Fair enough, I just suspect that there's more than a hint of inconsistency knocking about this here football forum, if such a thing can be believed.

As ever!  I've never been a massive fan off the time wasting either.  It just seems to have gone into a whole new level this last 6 months. Literally every game he's either being booked or nearly getting booked.  Today I felt it was detrimental to our mentality, reinforcing the feeling that we were just clinging on against the bog boys.  It invited pressure in my view, rather than allaying it. 

[Villatillidie25]

Think I watched a different game. Thought first half we were excellent, went toe to toe with the best team in the league and maybe even shaded it. Second half they inevitably stepped up a gear but we defended really well for the majority. Odegaard’ sitter was basically their only real major chance in the second half. They get one huge slice of luck and win it.
Yes, there are things to improve on. Ball retention, concentration from short corners to name two but this was a good performance by and large. The hyperbole on here is utterly ridiculous

[brackley]

What an absolute fucking chump that keeper is. His twattery quite literally rebounding on him today. Sure, take the piss a bit, but not when you’re letting in four goals a game.

[Smirker]

We are now conceding for fun at the back and not scoring enough.   Could we get sucked into it?

No.

[PaulWinch again]

We have some fans with pretty short memories.

[Monty]

What an absolute fucking chump that keeper is. His twattery quite literally rebounding on him today. Sure, take the piss a bit, but not when you’re letting in four goals a game.

Maybe it's not his twattery that's rebounding to sender when it comes to the Villa.

[Goldie.7]

What an absolute fucking chump that keeper is. His twattery quite literally rebounding on him today. Sure, take the piss a bit, but not when you’re letting in four goals a game.

Correct. Imagine not comprehending that his constant time wasting adds up over 90+ minutes. That 5 or 6 minutes he's blatantly wasting could be used for attacking to try and score more goals than the opposition.

I don't even reply to them, lolz

[Smirker]

Martinez time wasting doesn't concede three goals. Only the last one you could say he was at fualt for but the game was obviously gone by then.

[pablo_picasso]

What an absolute fucking chump that keeper is. His twattery quite literally rebounding on him today. Sure, take the piss a bit, but not when you’re letting in four goals a game.

Maybe it's not his twattery that's rebounding to sender when it comes to the Villa.

Absolutely. I have said it many times that Villa will pay for all of the shit-fuckery he has done with Argentina.

I swear to shit that we are cursed...

[SoccerHQ]

Six minutes would've been added on anyway as Cash and Saka were down for a combined four minutes at start of second half.

Bemused by people having a go at him going up for the corner, they were 30 seconds left at that point!