Shirt Sponsor 23/24 - BK8

[Dave]

I hate gambling and would love to see it gone from sports.

But, I find it funny how everyone ignores the fact that we were already sponsored by gambling companies anyway and have been for years.

Sky use coverage of our matches to sell SkyBet and sell advertising slots for our matches to other gambling companies. That money then comes to us through their rights payments.

When we were in the Championship the prize money came from SkyBet.

We, and every other club, is already neck deep in it. The only difference here is that the filthy cash isn’t first being washed by another party first.

I’m not sure people are “ignoring” that are they? You can be dissatisfied at the general influence of gambling/gambling money in football and still be pissed off that your club signs one up as “Principal Partner”.

I think there’s a lot of ignorance, yes. The articles appearing this morning fail to mention the betting advertising that’s already everywhere in football and on reading them you’d think we were the only ones accepting gambling cash. The same goes for the posts on here and what I’ve seen on social media.

I'd argue the greater ignorance is lumping the likes of BK8 and other white-label, south-east Asian gambling companies in with the likes of SkyBet and Bet365. They're not the same thing.

There are two issues - gambling being a social problem is one of them that applies to all the points that you correctly raise.

However, the examples that you give are not unregulated, opaque entities that have been accused by some investigative journalists of being used for some very unsavoury practices that I won't repeat here (but are easily Googleable). So it's not really the only difference.

[astonvilla82]

How many people buy Nike or Adidas gear, made by cheap labour?, don't hear any moaning about that

[German James]

It's because it's on the shirt.

[Hookeysmith]

How many people buy Nike or Adidas gear, made by cheap labour?, don't hear any moaning about that

Spot on

[TheTimVilla]

Speaking of ignorance, I had never heard of BK8 or Trade Nation until today.

[AGRIPPA]

I hate gambling and would love to see it gone from sports.

But, I find it funny how everyone ignores the fact that we were already sponsored by gambling companies anyway and have been for years.

Sky use coverage of our matches to sell SkyBet and sell advertising slots for our matches to other gambling companies. That money then comes to us through their rights payments.

When we were in the Championship the prize money came from SkyBet.

We, and every other club, is already neck deep in it. The only difference here is that the filthy cash isn’t first being washed by another party first.

I’m not sure people are “ignoring” that are they? You can be dissatisfied at the general influence of gambling/gambling money in football and still be pissed off that your club signs one up as “Principal Partner”.

I think there’s a lot of ignorance, yes. The articles appearing this morning fail to mention the betting advertising that’s already everywhere in football and on reading them you’d think we were the only ones accepting gambling cash. The same goes for the posts on here and what I’ve seen on social media.

I'd argue the greater ignorance is lumping the likes of BK8 and other white-label, south-east Asian gambling companies in with the likes of SkyBet and Bet365. They're not the same thing.

There are two issues - gambling being a social problem is one of them that applies to all the points that you correctly raise.

However, the examples that you give are not unregulated, opaque entities that have been accused by some investigative journalists of being used for some very unsavoury practices that I won't repeat here. So it's not really the only difference.

Sky don't own Skybet....

[Toronto Villa]

If people have an issue with BK8 or gambling that’s fine. But there could have been any number of sponsors that if you dig deep enough there would have been something distasteful in their practices or past. Where do you draw the line at moral condemnation or outrage?

[Dave]

I hate gambling and would love to see it gone from sports.

But, I find it funny how everyone ignores the fact that we were already sponsored by gambling companies anyway and have been for years.

Sky use coverage of our matches to sell SkyBet and sell advertising slots for our matches to other gambling companies. That money then comes to us through their rights payments.

When we were in the Championship the prize money came from SkyBet.

We, and every other club, is already neck deep in it. The only difference here is that the filthy cash isn’t first being washed by another party first.

I’m not sure people are “ignoring” that are they? You can be dissatisfied at the general influence of gambling/gambling money in football and still be pissed off that your club signs one up as “Principal Partner”.

I think there’s a lot of ignorance, yes. The articles appearing this morning fail to mention the betting advertising that’s already everywhere in football and on reading them you’d think we were the only ones accepting gambling cash. The same goes for the posts on here and what I’ve seen on social media.

I'd argue the greater ignorance is lumping the likes of BK8 and other white-label, south-east Asian gambling companies in with the likes of SkyBet and Bet365. They're not the same thing.

There are two issues - gambling being a social problem is one of them that applies to all the points that you correctly raise.

However, the examples that you give are not unregulated, opaque entities that have been accused by some investigative journalists of being used for some very unsavoury practices that I won't repeat here. So it's not really the only difference.

Sky don't own Skybet....

I didn't suggest that they did.

[Lastfootstamper]

Oh and Trade Nation are our new sleeve partner. Yet more of the same.

I don't think they are the same at all. I know nothing about Trade Nation, specifically, but everyone should have a brokerage account and investment principles should be taught in school.

Oh. Right. So they're not like Selco, then?

[pablo_picasso]

I hate everything about this deal.

I despise betting being so prominent in football & I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that Sky have their own betting tentacle with Stelling whoring himself out to advertise a product that is so potentially harmful, that while advertising to get you to use the product, they actively tell you that using the product is bad for you, so stop using the product they are advertising.

I know there was some controversy over the "overly sexual & sexist" marketing practices of BK8, but I found the "uproar" nothing more than virtue signalling by the same organisations & media outlets that use & glorify sex as a sales tool themselves every single day.

And by the same people whose web browser history would embarrass a Catholic Priest...

Here is a link to a picture of the sponsor on a shirt that is so big it has become the 8th wonder of the world & is now visible from space...

https://norwichcity.myfootballwriter.com/2021/06/08/goodbye-dafabet-hello-erm-bk8/

[Towser]

Oh and Trade Nation are our new sleeve partner. Yet more of the same.

I don't think they are the same at all. I know nothing about Trade Nation, specifically, but everyone should have a brokerage account and investment principles should be taught in school.

Oh. Right. So they're not like Selco, then?

More like B&Q

[Lastfootstamper]

Who's it aimed at? Do or did any of our sponsors ever attract the patronage of anybody on here because they were our sponsor? Acorns, maybe? Anybody ever look at that Mita copier gathering dust in the back of the garage and think they chose wisely? Anybody buy a Rover because of it? Anybody hooked on deconstructed yogurts? Anybody buy a cow, whatever that one was all about? If I'd had to have a guess at what BK8 is, I'd have guessed at Harry Kane's inside-right playing brother Barry's social media tag. I've already outed myself about Trade Nation.

[Ads]

How much is the deal rumoured to be worth?

[Toronto Villa]

How much is the deal rumoured to be worth?

More than everyone else we entertained I would guess. Which is also why we probably moved on from Purslow if this is the best we can do.

[Goldenballs]

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