Shirt Sponsor 23/24 - BK8

[Chris Harte]

In the summer of 2021, Norwich had been forced to tear up a deal with the same Asian betting firm amid outrage among fans and locals who pointed out BK8 marketing on YouTube featured simulated sex acts with a sausage. One Instagram account that claimed to belong to a BK8 “ambassador” also claimed that they were linked directly to hardcore pornography.

Not a turkey, then?

Just to add to those who disapproves of deals with gambling companies.

[bob]

Oh, but look who endorses them ...

Come home, sweet prince.

[bob]

A gambling firm? Oh no!

A sausage used in an advert? Oh no!

More concerning is that Cazoo might be dropping us. They sponsored me having a poo last week.

[Gareth]

Certainly not desirable to have gambling firms on the shirts but that is just my layman view…without context it’s hard to quantify outrage ie how much a gambling firm will pay against how much a non-gambling firm would pay and how significant that income stream is to the club??

The Qatar one is concerning - I suspect either the Premier League or a European Super League will be owned by Saudi / Qatar etc in 5 years so all the clubs will follow PSG / Newcastle etc and get into bed with the devil which is why the league bending over to let them buy Newcastle so they could start to get a piece of the pie was so sickening.

[bob]

We should convince AB InBev to let us embalzon the new North Stand in Stella Artois regalia to improve our public image a bit.

[Small Rodent]

A gambling firm? Oh no!

A sausage used in an advert? Oh no!

Did you look at the link to the adverts further up the thread?

I hope you’re not okay with the use of young women barely older than girls to sell products.

[Chris Harte]

A gambling firm? Oh no!

A sausage used in an advert? Oh no!

Did you look at the link to the adverts further up the thread?

I hope you’re not okay with the use of young women barely older than girls to sell products.

I'd rather it was Cadbury's, or Mondelez, if you will.

This would be the lesser of three evils (after booze and gambling) while simultaneously pissing off the noses who would likely claim it to be their local world-famous manufacturer.

[algy]

I have a hard time accepting gambling companies being involved in football (or anything else) at all, but these seem particularly bad.

Hope the club see sense on this.

[Drummond]

A gambling firm? Oh no!

A sausage used in an advert? Oh no!

Did you look at the link to the adverts further up the thread?

I hope you’re not okay with the use of young women barely older than girls to sell products.

Best ignored to be honest. Just here on the wind-up.

[chrisw1]

A gambling firm? Oh no!

A sausage used in an advert? Oh no!

Did you look at the link to the adverts further up the thread?

I hope you’re not okay with the use of young women barely older than girls to sell products.

I haven't looked to verify, but I understood they dropped that campaign back in 2021?

[brontebilly]

I think betting firms sponsoring football should be banned, but until they are then in a competitive league it's reasonable for Villa to seek similar sponsorship deals to our direct competitiors.

I don't think there is anything wrong with gambling sponsors.

What I wonder is why we are poking around at the BK8 end of the gambling sponsor market.

I have to disagree, there's an awful lot wrong with
 gambling companies and the damage their practices cause to communities including our own (Villa supporters). A public stand from the club that we will never "partner" with a betting company would generate far better PR and goodwill than whatever paltry amount this crowd are pumping in.

As an example, The GAA in Ireland has banned any sponsorship by gambling companies of any team in recent years. AVFC can certainly afford to do without BK8 and shouldn't need the FA stepping in to stop it outright. With the match ticket prices in the midst of a cost of living crisis also shooting up, it does give the sense of a club increasingly disconnected from it's community and supporters.

[Goldenballs]

How many people who are against gambling sponsors, gamble themselves?

I gamble and don't have a strong opinion either way about whether we should accept sponsorship money from a gambling company. The league Cup has been called the Worthington Cup, and the Carling Cup, and I think Carling has sponsored the Scottish teams. Alcohol also has the potential to ruin lives but drinking is part of the match day experience for a lot of fans.

Should alcohol sponsors be allowed?

[pauliewalnuts]

I think betting firms sponsoring football should be banned, but until they are then in a competitive league it's reasonable for Villa to seek similar sponsorship deals to our direct competitiors.

I don't think there is anything wrong with gambling sponsors.

What I wonder is why we are poking around at the BK8 end of the gambling sponsor market.

I have to disagree, there's an awful lot wrong with
 gambling companies and the damage their practices cause to communities including our own (Villa supporters). A public stand from the club that we will never "partner" with a betting company would generate far better PR and goodwill than whatever paltry amount this crowd are pumping in.

As an example, The GAA in Ireland has banned any sponsorship by gambling companies of any team in recent years. AVFC can certainly afford to do without BK8 and shouldn't need the FA stepping in to stop it outright. With the match ticket prices in the midst of a cost of living crisis also shooting up, it does give the sense of a club increasingly disconnected from it's community and supporters.

re gambling, I worked in the industry for over 15 years (and am probably going to end up back in it soon enough) so obviously have a different stance re gambling per se, but if it's currently allowed (and TBH, I'd ban it) then we're not doing anything wrong IMO. I am far more bothered about the other crypto gambling wankers we'd in bed with, they're much dodgier.

I'd also suggest we do need the money, otherwise we'd have a more prestigious sponsor paying more money.

Revenue has to come from somewhere, it's pretty tough for us to say no to this sponsor or that one, no to more expensive tickets etc etc. It's easy to say "don't do that" but tougher to say "do that instead" and point at something realistic.

[pauliewalnuts]

I gamble and don't have a strong opinion either way about whether we should accept sponsorship money from a gambling company. The league Cup has been called the Worthington Cup, and the Carling Cup, and I think Carling has sponsored the Scottish teams. Alcohol also has the potential to ruin lives but drinking is part of the match day experience for a lot of fans.

Indeed - lots of things ruin lives if done irresponsibly, but there's not much opprobrium directed at the thousands and thousands of posts here which involve people talking about getting pissed up / needing a drink before, during and after the match etc.

[pauliewalnuts]

More concerning is that Cazoo might be dropping us. They sponsored me having a poo last week.

The way they're going, they'll be struggling to pay you for that dump, so I hope your payment terms reflected that.