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Author Topic: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread  (Read 497695 times)

Online LeeB

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2595 on: January 27, 2023, 10:05:19 AM »
Imagine if you were a Newcastle fan, sat in 3rd with a very real chance of Champions League football this season, with the richest owners in world football, and your only January signing so far is a £300k Aussie kid loaned immediately to Hearts.  AND you've loaned out the £25m forward you signed a year ago.

We are not alone in finding January hard. The only team really making significant improvements is Chelsea, whose owner is treating the transfer market like an episode of Supermarket Sweep.

I still think two more, one permanent and one loan. One of them a forward.  The squad will be slightly down in numbers, but hopefully slightly better in quality.
Thats a very good point - I also don't think we would be that excited by the idea of Gordon rocking up for 40m

Oh great, you've said it now so I expect to be watching a video of a tearful Gordon looking up at a video of Claire Boulding welcoming him to the club from the lower Holte within the next few days.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2596 on: January 27, 2023, 10:12:07 AM »
He's not a bad player really. He's got saft hair though.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2597 on: January 27, 2023, 10:17:31 AM »
Imagine if you were a Newcastle fan, sat in 3rd with a very real chance of Champions League football this season, with the richest owners in world football, and your only January signing so far is a £300k Aussie kid loaned immediately to Hearts.  AND you've loaned out the £25m forward you signed a year ago.


They've got Saint Maximin and £60m record signing Isak on the bench though.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2598 on: January 27, 2023, 10:24:30 AM »
The negativity is really strange. I haven't felt this good about villa since about 2008.

For a transfer to happen the club the player is contracted to has to be willing to release the player for your valuation and the player contracted to the club has to be willing to join your club for the money you are willing to pay him. And there will be other clubs sniffing around, maybe more desperate than you are.

January has always been a tricky month. We probably over paid for Digne last year, for example.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2599 on: January 27, 2023, 10:28:13 AM »
The negativity is really strange. I haven't felt this good about villa since about 2008.

For a transfer to happen the club the player is contracted to has to be willing to release the player for your valuation and the player contracted to the club has to be willing to join your club for the money you are willing to pay him. And there will be other clubs sniffing around, maybe more desperate than you are.

January has always been a tricky month. We probably over paid for Digne last year, for example.

£25m for a defender who has PSG, Barcelona and 50 caps for France on his CV? When players like Wan-Bissake have cost £50m?

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2600 on: January 27, 2023, 10:35:01 AM »
The negativity is really strange. I haven't felt this good about villa since about 2008.

For a transfer to happen the club the player is contracted to has to be willing to release the player for your valuation and the player contracted to the club has to be willing to join your club for the money you are willing to pay him. And there will be other clubs sniffing around, maybe more desperate than you are.

January has always been a tricky month. We probably over paid for Digne last year, for example.

January wasn't too tricky to prevent Liverpool buying Suarez or Van Dijk. Or Man Utd buying Vidic or Evra. Or Spurs buying Kulusevski and Bentacur. Or us buying Young and Carew.

Or West Ham buying Ings. Or Middlesbrough borrowing Archer.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2601 on: January 27, 2023, 10:35:32 AM »
I'm trying to be encoraged by thinking the players we're after are actually good and a) their teams don't want to lose them and b) other teams want them too so it's taking longer than we would like.

It will be fine.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2602 on: January 27, 2023, 10:38:31 AM »
Imagine if you were a Newcastle fan, sat in 3rd with a very real chance of Champions League football this season, with the richest owners in world football, and your only January signing so far is a £300k Aussie kid loaned immediately to Hearts.  AND you've loaned out the £25m forward you signed a year ago.


They've got Saint Maximin and £60m record signing Isak on the bench though.

Of course, but that bench also includes Lascelles, Jamal Lewis, Jacob Murphy and Matt Richie. They're not blessed with enormous squad depth. They obviously have a good first eleven, and a reasonable squad, but they also have some weaknesses on that bench too, and you could argue their need for reinforcements (given the potential rewards within touching distance for them) is as high as anyones.

Of course it's comparing apples and oranges comparing their needs to ours, I'm just pointing out that if it were easy to strengthen with very good players in January, I suspect Newcastle would also be doing it.  Chelsea have seemingly started their own FFP time-bomb, so no idea how that's going to play out...

I actually have as much confidence in our future recruitment as I've had in a long time (though Emery is cause of much of this confidence), I just hope we can get a couple more across the line.  With no more additions and a couple of key injuries we would be fielding some very make-shift line-ups. I really hope it doesn't come to that.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2603 on: January 27, 2023, 10:44:30 AM »
Thing is, if we can't get our targets this month, for whatever reason, and then start getting bodies in the door just because, we're back at square one.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2604 on: January 27, 2023, 10:47:59 AM »
We'll sign another attacker next week I'm sure.

Bit odd to let Ings leave when he's been a solid back up this season and chipping in with goals that have won us points in difficult matches (Brighton,Wolves).

Of course Ollie hardly gets injured but he did pull up v Leeds so if same happens v Leicester I think it's a bit optimistic for Duran to come on and make Benteke style impact straight away.

He needs time to develop. Not like we're overflowing with many wide attackers either.

I'd like us to have a go at qualifying for europe. Feels a bit odd if we're happy to just float around 11th/12th especially when you see likes of Fulham and Brentford are only 3 points ahead, we can certainly finish above those two.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2605 on: January 27, 2023, 10:59:03 AM »
As per nearly always, the January transfer window is proving a damp squib.

When Gerrard left, we were in relegation form. Now we are approximately 12 points away from safety with 18 league games to play. First mission almost accomplished.

Any new players in January that would improve our first team would need to hit the ground running. If in good form, it is very unlikely their current club would let them go unless stupid money was involved (eg Chelsea). We are also getting rid of deadwood.

It seems like we are building up our coffers for a busy summer transfer window. Unai will use the rest of the season to see what we have in the locker, maybe give youth a chance, install his style of play, study the market and let the purse strings rip in the summer.

Possibly one experienced forward on a loan deal and I reckon our January window is done and dusted. It might give us a chance of a European spot this season but realistically next season is the target.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2606 on: January 27, 2023, 11:03:42 AM »
As per nearly always, the January transfer window is proving a damp squib.

When Gerrard left, we were in relegation form. Now we are approximately 12 points away from safety with 18 league games to play. First mission almost accomplished.

Any new players in January that would improve our first team would need to hit the ground running. If in good form, it is very unlikely their current club would let them go unless stupid money was involved (eg Chelsea). We are also getting rid of deadwood.

It seems like we are building up our coffers for a busy summer transfer window. Unai will use the rest of the season to see what we have in the locker, maybe give youth a chance, install his style of play, study the market and let the purse strings rip in the summer.

Possibly one experienced forward on a loan deal and I reckon our January window is done and dusted. It might give us a chance of a European spot this season but realistically next season is the target.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

I would also like to see youth given a chance, but aren't all of our most promising young players out on loan?

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2607 on: January 27, 2023, 11:15:41 AM »
Thing is, if we can't get our targets this month, for whatever reason, and then start getting bodies in the door just because, we're back at square one.
Someone like Dembele would be pretty risk free.  A few million fee and at an age where we could probably get our money back next year.  Appreciate not everyone rates him, but I'd rather have him as an option than just hope that a 19 y/o can step up from the MLS

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2608 on: January 27, 2023, 11:15:53 AM »
According to a few media reports, Swansea are after Kaine Kesler-Hayden. Wouldn't be a bad shout. They are short in the RB area so he would get games & they are a half decent side. If Young is going to give cover & competition to Cash, then it makes sense he gets games & come back to be backup next year when Young will most likely be moved on. I wouldn't mind us taking a cheeky little punt on Djed Spence from Spurs though. He has been out of contention ever since Levy signed him over Contes head. Having Spence & Kesler-Hayden competing for that RB/RWB slot next year would be great. Lots of pace & forward running.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #2609 on: January 27, 2023, 11:30:52 AM »
I like KKH and Swansea would seem like a good move.

 


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